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Post by halochronicles on Aug 28, 2008 22:09:05 GMT -5
I don't think age difference is that big of a deal, unless if it is a very, very long stretch, like, I don't know... 30 years apart. My aunt and uncle are 10 years apart and they're in there 30th anniversary... I think. And thanks nymphadora .
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Post by fuego on Aug 29, 2008 1:40:49 GMT -5
I ment that in a scene in the slang term...Gold Digger and the stereotypes that are associated with and beside both have wealth.
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Post by ZamKenobi on Aug 29, 2008 8:20:45 GMT -5
^I get what you meant. But I actually see the age difference as a problem for many people shipping the couple romantically. I think they prefer it platonic yet if Toph were around Zuko's age or vice verse I think they definintely would have shipped it romantically. Maybe many people aren't comfortable multi-shipping and they already had their Zuko and Toph ships picked out. EDIT: Booter Freak made a Toko fanart! Platonic, but still lovely booter-freak.deviantart.com/art/Buddies-Giftart-for-Pandari-96408063
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Post by nandireya on Aug 29, 2008 19:35:28 GMT -5
I actually see the age difference as a problem for many people shipping the couple romantically. But Zuko and Sokka are the same freaking age (or close enough) and no one seems to have a problem with pairing Sokka and Toph romantically! Maybe Zuko's stoicness makes him appear older next to Sokka's goofiness... But I can imagine oh-so-noble Zuko seeing Toph as a child until she hits 16 or so and does something to prove different.
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Post by jillrg on Aug 29, 2008 22:21:56 GMT -5
The age difference is the biggest problem I have with this as a mutual ship. 12/15 is easier for me than 12/16. But this world is ancient Asia-based; probably perfectly acceptable back then. And there's nothing wrong or unexpected with a girl having a crush on a guy a few years odler than her (especially when the guy is Zuko).
I just thought of soemthing today. Toph expresses her affection for Sokka by beating him up, teasing him, annoying him, denying she even cares about him at all ("They missed you or soemthing. I didn't care.") But she's pretty open about her affection for Zuko. You don't just glomp someone (or say "That's how I show affection") without thinking it will send a message, right?
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Post by nandireya on Aug 29, 2008 23:13:25 GMT -5
Maybe she realised being aloof didn't work so she decided to be direct? Or maybe whatever it was she felt for Zuko was different to what she felt for Sokka. It might have been more than a crush...to her at least.
Consider...she NEVER gave Zuko a degrading (though very fitting) nickname.
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Post by Sakura on Aug 30, 2008 0:42:32 GMT -5
Good question, hm?
What happened to "Love has no age" or whatever the quote was? Gosh!
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Post by fuego on Aug 30, 2008 3:05:03 GMT -5
well as for the age difference...It wasn't that along ago, well...in in the days of World War two when couples were married in distance ages...some time five or six years apart. It still exist in some places in the world.
This more about personality...Toph relationship between these two guys are different and it show...I lean more to Zuko more because she seem a little "nicer" to him then Sokka or even aang.
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Post by nandireya on Aug 30, 2008 22:40:25 GMT -5
by KidAngel (a new Toko convert ) by Nuclear Kitty17
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Post by ZamKenobi on Sept 1, 2008 18:49:32 GMT -5
But Zuko and Sokka are the same freaking age (or close enough) and no one seems to have a problem with pairing Sokka and Toph romantically! I know! It sounds really ridiculous when you talk about it, but for many people one year seems to make a lot of difference. I can sort of understand where they're coming from, but not in why Tokka is that much of a difference. In the beginning I had a little itsy bitsy problem with the age difference, but I actually had one with Tokka too. I don't think it makes any sense for one to be too much and not the other. And I think 17 and 13 are much more acceptable together, and that's the ages they are at the end of the series. well as for the age difference...It wasn't that along ago, well...in in the days of World War two when couples were married in distance ages...some time five or six years apart. It still exist in some places in the world. It still exists in the US. My parents are at least 5 years apart, and I know someone whose parents are almost 20 years apart. People are marrying others of all ages now. It just seems that when you're younger, you tend to date people your own age. When you hit your twenties I think age continues to matter less and less.
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Post by nandireya on Sept 2, 2008 2:03:15 GMT -5
The legal age in Avatar appears to be 16...or at least for the Water Tribe (I don't know what that says for Katara...the little hussy)...12 and 16 sounds wrong, but when Toph is 16, Zuko will be 20...not a big deal...by the time they hit 20 and 24 no one would care.
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Post by ZamKenobi on Sept 2, 2008 7:57:00 GMT -5
^Exactly my point. If you think about it that way the ages aren't really a problem. Now that the series is over there are going to be a lot of post-finale fanfics anyway, so I'm expecting "years later" stories all over the place, not just in Toko fics. I think it puts Toko on a more level playing field. I do see people being more open to it just because of the scenes in EIP and the finale though. Age difference or not, you can't deny how good Toph is at making Zuko feel better.
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Post by riverbird on Sept 2, 2008 11:41:36 GMT -5
I have been lurking on this thread for a while, reading fan fiction and checking out some of the amazing art (LengTu on DA is one of my favs), and have come to the realization that I have become a total toko fan. I think I like them more than kataang >.> they work really well together and have really great chemistry, I have been fiddling with this comic idea for them that I would like to do if I can find the time.
I agree about the age thing not mattering that much when you turn 20. I dated someone who was 29 and it was great, when you are younger you focus on the differences. Like pants, age is an illusion.
Toph is someone that Zuko seems to trust and talk to openly; you only really see that with his interaction with Iroh. She is also the only person that seems to really listen and give him good advice on whole, and -as Suzume said- makes him feel better. : )
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Post by nandireya on Sept 3, 2008 2:45:03 GMT -5
Toph is someone that Zuko seems to trust and talk to openly; you only really see that with his interaction with Iroh. She is also the only person that seems to really listen and give him good advice on whole, and -as Suzume said- makes him feel better. : ) That's one of (the many) things that bothers me about him being with Mai. The first time we see them together he's confused and worried and she just blows him off. She doesn't offer him any support or any words of advice...she just doesn't want to hear it. For me at least it made a very poor first impression of this relationship...and first impressions last. Any way...let's have some sweet, sweet Toko now by Yukina-chun
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Post by Zenjamin on Sept 4, 2008 8:41:14 GMT -5
well as for the age difference...It wasn't that along ago, well...in in the days of World War two when couples were married in distance ages...some time five or six years apart. It still exist in some places in the world. Ya, in some places of the world. Like my dorm room. (in case that sounded creepy, im more talking of a older woman, not a younger girl) Yes, but not so nice that she wont give him a nice black & blue mark of affection. That part is important. ;D Like pants, age is an illusion. You are so getting karma for that. Yep, the personality compatibility is where this ship trumps any other. If a Psychologist were to look at all the ships in avatar, they would say Toko had the most potential for a healthy relationship. ( IMO, Zutara would come dead last. ) Any way...let's have some sweet, sweet Toko now OK nandi, at this point , one has to ask. Do you consider yourself an actual Toko shipper? And if not, how would you define a toko shipper?
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