Ardor
Fire Nation Soldier
Captain of the Blue Spirits
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Post by Ardor on Mar 26, 2006 15:09:02 GMT -5
*raises eyebrows* Go ahead! *smile*
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Post by Confettie on Mar 26, 2006 15:26:31 GMT -5
hey guys I want to join the Kataang war room! Almighty pestering me to join. Also I got smite like 3 times in a day for ZukoxSong sig from I wonder who? So I want to join!
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Post by Revitalize Book on Mar 26, 2006 15:28:09 GMT -5
*Hee hee!* ~~~~~~~~~
Kataang Reporter Shoots A Question to A Member In The Crowd! What will become of this? *Feel free to join in everyone- you too Confettie*!:
"There's been a lot of discussion on Zutara and Kataang, and now the new pairing: Soko," I started a bit shakily. "I've actually wondered about this; there's been a trickle of questions about who deserves who, and who doesn't deserve who. I have especially heard that Zuko 'needs' Katara more for 'healing'..." I paused for a moment, moving my hands wider for effect, "...but I'm wondering if that means Zuko cannot heal through anyone but Katara. The thought of Zuko with Katara because he wants to, the majority reason for many relationships, seems to be drowned out.
There's another aspect of the 'who deserves who' that is unsettling; making it seem that one character, depending on your standing, does not deserve a relationship or another character. I don't often hear 'who wants to be with this character more' or 'who would enjoy being together more', just who 'needs' to be together. I don't even often hear the 'need' turning into a 'want'"
I glanced around me. A few people were watching. I smiled a bit; maybe this wouldn't be such a bad discussion.
"So," I continued, "I wanted to know your thoughts on this; of the way a character may not deserve another and how this is slightly degrading (like Zuko with Katara, when I read reasons, I don't often catch the good things about Aang that could help him be with someone else if not Katara, but the bad things that just don't work for Kataang and...that's it mainly), and how it seems relationships are formed out of 'needs' more than 'wants' in the Zutara- and other, of course, fandom."
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Post by Confettie on Mar 26, 2006 15:31:56 GMT -5
If there is anyone who needs to be heal then it would be Aang he just does a way better job of covering his pain then Zuko does. Though I think a relationship base on pity will never work. I don't think neither Aang or Zuko would want to be a pity relationship.
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Post by Revitalize Book on Mar 26, 2006 15:37:21 GMT -5
Kataang Reporter Asks a Question From Confetties Startling Answer- What Will Happen? :
"That's a good point. I'm wondering if the relationship starting out with pity would be all right though, or if they should be naturally into eachother for a romance or friendship to bloom?" I asked. "Does the starting point matter to how they become friends, or more, matter? Yet if it starts with pity, when do you realize that pity isn't the reason the person wants to be with you anymore, it's because they like you for you?"
My heart was slowly grinding to a steady pace. I didn't feel as nervous anymore.
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adictvbitrsweet
Avatar Korra
I am aware I've been misled; I disconnect my heart, my head
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Post by adictvbitrsweet on Mar 26, 2006 15:41:32 GMT -5
I think that saying that a character specifically needs another character is ludicrous. Barely any of the characters are developed - and they're still developing! None of the characters, with maybe the exception of Katara and Aang, have interacted with one another enough romantically for any of us to determine whether or not they would want to or enjoy a relationship with another. I guess that might be fuel for the shipping wars - determining who would want to be in a relationship with some other character, and who that other character is. I doubt any of the characters could be in a pity-relationship - I don't think any of them would stand for it. Starting out with pity and slowly transforming into like/love could be the only way I could see pity onvolved with any pairing.
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Post by Mashnii on Mar 26, 2006 16:03:57 GMT -5
Sorry I've been gone. Anyways: yeah, sure, of course you can join, Confettie! Also, great job Bumiairbendingloves; very well written. Well, I don't really have any lemurs or penguins or bisons, but I'll be doing some research for a few minutes or so to get some. Well, talk to ya in about fifteen minutes! ;D
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Post by Revitalize Book on Mar 26, 2006 16:23:23 GMT -5
I think that saying that a character specifically needs another character is ludicrous. Barely any of the characters are developed - and they're still developing! None of the characters, with maybe the exception of Katara and Aang, have interacted with one another enough romantically for any of us to determine whether or not they would want to or enjoy a relationship with another. I guess that might be fuel for the shipping wars - determining who would want to be in a relationship with some other character, and who that other character is. I doubt any of the characters could be in a pity-relationship - I don't think any of them would stand for it. Starting out with pity and slowly transforming into like/love could be the only way I could see pity onvolved with any pairing. Kataang Reporter Is Back, Questioning Adictvbitrsweet Bold Answer!: "That's very opinionated and precise!" I said, nodding. The crowd was growing larger; listening. "Now I'm wondering if, when pairing characters, do fans consider what is most imprtant for the people in the pairing. What I mean is, do fans consider what the characters in a pairing need and want, more so than their own opinions." Like in Zutara, I thought to myself, or in any other shipping. In Zutara, are Zutarians Zutarains because they feel Zuko and Katara would be happiest in the long run, or because it is what they want to see, generally? It would be important to want it for the characters and yourself, but in the end, is what you want more important than what the characters want? I waited patiently, wondering how this would be answered. Luckily, I was not being threatened thus far... But only thus far. ~~~~~~~ Yay! Mashnipfaeri! ;D I'm glad I'm doing okay so far. Please feel free to join me in question whenver you want to take a break from your mission! Yay for...love! :3
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Ardor
Fire Nation Soldier
Captain of the Blue Spirits
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Post by Ardor on Mar 26, 2006 16:28:55 GMT -5
Steps out from crowd, "I ship Zutara because its a beautiful story."
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Post by Revitalize Book on Mar 26, 2006 16:36:45 GMT -5
Kataang Reporter Hears Another Voice- What Will Happen?:
"A beautiful story?" I turn to a Zutarian. "Intersting, yet quite a simple response. How so? Is not Kataang a beautiful story?
Please, explain. This sounds intriguing."
I jotted down quickly some notes, drew a funny picture of Sokka on my note pad, and then turned to this person, waiting- listening.
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Ardor
Fire Nation Soldier
Captain of the Blue Spirits
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Post by Ardor on Mar 26, 2006 16:48:33 GMT -5
I will quote Wilderness Writer for this question. her beautiful post explained everything I was forever trying to say. Lol, when I read the title of this thread, I let out a little whoop of victory. Yay!! We're annoying! *Raises Sword and Banner* We're annoying? That means we're heard! That means we believe in something, and we believe in it passionately. It is through passion and dedication that nations have been won, kingdoms moved, lands reshaped, beautiful works of art created, and true love born. Yes, this is just a television show, but the dear Zutarians who promote their ship show a level of zeal that must surely be reflected in other aspects of their lives. Without zeal, there is apathy. A wise man once said that apathy is a worker of greater evil than that of greed or pride, the reasons wars are usually fought over. We Zutarians can say that we are not apathetic. In fact, the brilliant theorizing some Zutarians have displayed is indictive of brains well put to work. The logic used by some of our well-known theorizers, such as Youkai, and Ardor, among others, is often compelling and reasonable. So lift high your heads, Zutarians. Raise your swords and join with the chorus of those who will be heard! This was from the "Zutarians Drive me Nuts" spread. Its very beautiful.
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Post by Mashnii on Mar 26, 2006 17:07:03 GMT -5
So... um, are you an ambassador? Cause I thought that only ambassadors got to submit posts in the other ship's war room. I don't know. *shrugs* It could be either way.
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Post by almighty on Mar 26, 2006 17:12:27 GMT -5
I think that saying that a character specifically needs another character is ludicrous. Barely any of the characters are developed - and they're still developing! None of the characters, with maybe the exception of Katara and Aang, have interacted with one another enough romantically for any of us to determine whether or not they would want to or enjoy a relationship with another. I guess that might be fuel for the shipping wars - determining who would want to be in a relationship with some other character, and who that other character is. I doubt any of the characters could be in a pity-relationship - I don't think any of them would stand for it. Starting out with pity and slowly transforming into like/love could be the only way I could see pity onvolved with any pairing. Okay... the first sentence that you just typed down totally contradicts your ship. I mean, from all the posts I've seen about Zutara, they said that Zuko needs someone to heal him and that one person could be Katara. <--- totally contradictory.
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adictvbitrsweet
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I am aware I've been misled; I disconnect my heart, my head
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Post by adictvbitrsweet on Mar 26, 2006 17:14:27 GMT -5
I'm not going along with the generality of my ship, no matter how many people think that certain idea - This is my individual opinion.
"I think"
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Ardor
Fire Nation Soldier
Captain of the Blue Spirits
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Post by Ardor on Mar 26, 2006 17:23:36 GMT -5
So... um, are you an ambassador? Cause I thought that only ambassadors got to submit posts in the other ship's war room. I don't know. *shrugs* It could be either way. No, I'm the Captian/Commander of the Blue Spirit Ninja's. *salute*
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