taechunsa
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Post by taechunsa on Nov 13, 2007 15:27:26 GMT -5
Okay, another one that I just cannot resist. I would think that glass would qualify as processed earth just as metal does. It may be sand (silicon oxide), but people have to run it through a process to make glass from sand. Isn't that the definition of a processed material? on one hand I'd say yes as glass is mostly made of silica (sand) that's heated to the point where it gains a crystalline structure. Actually it is an amorphous solid (or super cooled liquid depending on how you wish to look at it) which means that it does not have a overall crystalline structure. but the question isnt "is glass bendable" the question is " has glass been discovered/invented/put to use?" ive searched my mind and i cant think of a single screenshot that shows that there is glass in the avaverse. the closest thing is the monocle of the mechanist... and thats not really glass. Other then the single instance of the monocle I cannot think if any glass either. So the real question might better be is glass common enough to be used at all in a window? To this I would say no as well. All of this being said, I will quote Wyrmking as to why this is mostly a moot topic of discussion. Bending is a magical art, you can't use Science to back up your theory. So, do whatever you want.
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Post by WyrmKing on Nov 13, 2007 15:28:08 GMT -5
Lenses were made out of glass during ancient times. =)
Totally random but Plasticbending! LOL!
I still need to work within the rules set by the show.
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Post by mike1921 on Nov 13, 2007 15:35:11 GMT -5
Earth. Even though it has been said that only firebenders can bend lava, I think that was just for those moronic 7 year olds who are like "Lava is FIRE!!! because it's red and hot"
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taechunsa
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Post by taechunsa on Nov 13, 2007 15:41:47 GMT -5
I still need to work within the rules set by the show. The simple point is that glassbending has not been seen. So if we cannot apply science to a magical phenomenon then we are right back to, do what you want because there are no established rules regarding glass bending. It is that simple.
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Post by WyrmKing on Nov 13, 2007 15:46:42 GMT -5
I still need to work within the rules set by the show. The simple point is that glassbending has not been seen. So if we cannot apply science to a magical phenomenon then we are right back to, do what you want because there are no established rules regarding glass bending. It is that simple. Then you apply the closest rule that we know of in regards to this unknown situation. Like the rules for Metalbending. As you said, glass would be under "processed earth" category like metal. So it would probably be nearly close to impossible to Earthbend.
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Post by Alouncara on Nov 13, 2007 17:07:37 GMT -5
It would be bendable in my opion Toph couldn't easily bend the sand because it was so induviduale. Toph needs contact to bend the metal but whatr is metal? EARTH! All that is done with the metal is it is PURIFIED... Don't really matter how much they purifie it still gonna be Earth that simple. Earthbenders cannot bend processed earth. There was enough minerals in the metal that wasn't purified for Toph to bend. No, Toph doesn't bend the purified parts of the metal, just the few minerals left that's still bendable. If she can bend the metal itself then Metalbending wouldn't be as restricted. She doesn't have complete control over metal. That's what it is thought PROSESSED! It is still Earth! If top was bending the Fragments of 'pure earth'then they might as well rip through the metal into her hands xD I mean what is earth? Dust/Decomposed items/Crystals/minerals all that, Metal is still Earth but a stiffer and harder elemnt to bend becayuse they've taken out alll thwe dirt and other crud! What is metal? a Bunch ofminerals isn't it? Steel is a even more purified form of iron so iron would be easier to bend than steel
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Post by WyrmKing on Nov 13, 2007 17:11:49 GMT -5
That's what it is thought PROSESSED! It is still Earth! If top was bending the Fragments of 'pure earth'then they might as well rip through the metal into her hands xD I mean what is earth? Dust/Decomposed items/Crystals/minerals all that, Metal is still Earth but a stiffer and harder elemnt to bend becayuse they've taken out alll thwe dirt and other crud! What is metal? a Bunch ofminerals isn't it? Steel is a even more purified form of iron so iron would be easier to bend than steel *sigh* Yes, it's still earth but it's the law of the Avatar universe that Earthbenders cannot Earthbend processed earth... simple as that... This picture alone should prove that Toph was targetting only the bendable parts of the metal. avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Toph_002.jpgEdit: Copy and paste the link since it's broken up...
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Post by volcomxreckless on Nov 13, 2007 18:32:11 GMT -5
I think so... because Metal is bendable.
Is there glass in the Avatar World?
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Post by WyrmKing on Nov 13, 2007 18:35:12 GMT -5
Is there glass in the Avatar World? We can only think of The Mechanist's monocle as the only example we've seen lol.
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Post by Sanguine Flame on Nov 13, 2007 19:12:47 GMT -5
As regards the mechanist's monocle... it could be precision earthbent quartz. or it could be glass. If so, he might be the inventor of glass in the avatarverse, for all we know. It's certainly incredibly rare, seeing as it apparently is not even present in the private quarters of royalty.
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Post by Horyo on Nov 13, 2007 20:58:53 GMT -5
Before we wonder if Glass can be bent.
We have to think about the material itself. Glass seems too rigid and restricted to be manipulated, unlike earth which can be easily formed by the bender's will. Someone said that glass was liquid in solid form, well I can't really imagine an Earthbender trying to bend melted rock well unless he's the avatar who can control fire also.
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Post by paleiko on Nov 14, 2007 2:43:58 GMT -5
Steel is not a purified form of iron. Steel contains additional compounds like Carbon and other metals to improve its properties.
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Post by WyrmKing on Nov 14, 2007 5:53:19 GMT -5
Before we wonder if Glass can be bent. We have to think about the material itself. Glass seems too rigid and restricted to be manipulated, unlike earth which can be easily formed by the bender's will. Someone said that glass was liquid in solid form, well I can't really imagine an Earthbender trying to bend melted rock well unless he's the avatar who can control fire also. I don't think rigidity is a problem if it's Bendable. A rock is pretty rigid but an Earthbender can manipulate and sculpt it no problem. And an Earthbender can most likely manipulate molten rock, after all, it is rock. If an Earthbender can make sand out of solid earth or solid earth out of sand, I think an Earthbender can do anything with non-processed earth. Steel is not a purified form of iron. Steel contains additional compounds like Carbon and other metals to improve its properties. I don't think anyone is talking about steel in this thread. Just metal in a general and very vague sense.
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Post by attonbitus on Nov 14, 2007 10:47:32 GMT -5
Before we wonder if Glass can be bent. We have to think about the material itself. Glass seems too rigid and restricted to be manipulated, unlike earth which can be easily formed by the bender's will. Someone said that glass was liquid in solid form, well I can't really imagine an Earthbender trying to bend melted rock well unless he's the avatar who can control fire also. Don't forget about the Crystals that Aang and the Dai Lee used in the 2nd finale. To me those would have the most "glass like" properties. As far as other instances for glass. The Drill had windows to look out ouf the command tower, not to mention the various FN ships command desk. Heck Zuko even got blasted out of the window when the pirates exploded his ship. If you watch the scene you can see the windows getting blown out. Like I said previously, i only think the FN is capable of producing enough heat to melt sand on a large scale.
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Post by admirality on Nov 14, 2007 14:09:32 GMT -5
If ne one cud bend glass it wud be earth benders coz it is just sand that has been processed....
Have we ever seen any glass in the avatr world I can't recall seeing ne?
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