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Post by waterfire (I am back!!!) on Dec 31, 2006 21:22:57 GMT -5
Both Katara and Toph are awesome! Don't Hate them!
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Post by LightBender on Jan 1, 2007 7:32:25 GMT -5
I like all the characters. I like Katara and Toph most from the girl characters because they are strong females that are ready to beat up anyone.
Toph is probably more likeable because she says stuff that is 'funny'. Katara's lines are usually pretty serious now. When's the last time she said something funny? People tend to like others who are funny. Plenty of people watch the Daily Show or the Colbert Report for the news because it's funnier.
Toph might be said to be the better bender, but that is not true. As it has been said before, Katara has this little skin of water and Toph has everything around her. The gaang's also in the Earth Kingdom. Back in the Water Tribes, Katara had the advantage.
The people who like Toph could possibly be Taang shippers, but not Zutara shippers. So, they think that Katara's getting in the way. Which could actually be true for most other shippings, perhaps. If Taang's going to happen, Katara can't be in the way. These were all just points.
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Post by Revitalize Book on Jan 1, 2007 12:52:52 GMT -5
I think Katara's pretty cool. Tophs awesom and so is she. Katara does tend to do actions that grate on my nerves, but that just shows how much I acknowledge her- the whole of her personality. She's really very cool.
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Post by The Crystal [Hope] Catacombs on Jan 1, 2007 14:44:42 GMT -5
i love katara
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Post by mahatista on Jan 1, 2007 14:51:15 GMT -5
I like Katara. She's motherly. Her fighting has gotten amazing and she's like a goddess at those times so I hope season 3 will give her lots of opportunity to show off.
I used to be a Zutara supporter, but now I don't care who she ends up with. I do think it's time she ended up getting some kissing and hugging from somebody though. Before she becomes so maternal she's sexless. Not that moms are devoid of sex appeal ... but ... ahem.
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Post by silverdreams on Jan 1, 2007 19:05:38 GMT -5
People don't hate Katara. Katara is like, my favorite character in the show. I like both her and Toph, but Katara better actually. I just think Toph is a WAY better bender, thats all.
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Post by Snowbunny on Jan 1, 2007 20:44:01 GMT -5
I use to hate Katara but I like her now....But I never liked Toph she annoys me.... Thank you!!! Thank you!!! Oh my goodness, I thought I was the only person who's annoyed by her (no offense to the people who like/love her). Thank you again! You deserve a karma!
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Post by Amira on Jan 2, 2007 8:01:14 GMT -5
I really disliked Toph at first, but grew to love her. I love Katara and always have. She is a girl who is a mix of caring and compassion and tough fighter with a hint of a rebellious streak. She is fiercely loyal to those she loves, is not afraid of hardwork, and has embraced Aang's mission to save the world wholeheartedly (even at the expense of her own life). She isn't perfect - she argues, can be stubborn, and holds grudges.
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Post by ihatetoph12 on Jan 2, 2007 10:19:30 GMT -5
Hello, I hate toph, she's like this ideal fantasy camp female character that can't stand. She's tough, sarcastic, out speaking, and hardcore little tramp who has a disablity but is still better than most characters on avatar that only female fanfic writers can think up. She's just like Sarah Mcdougal and Gosalyn both from love hina and darkwing duck. A little Annoying tomboy brat thing thats totally mary-sueish to the point of typical plot holes. The fact she's blind tells us that she has an excuse for all her br0ken abiltys and characterization, that doesn't change the fact that she can get her way in any worst case senario, from getting into to any place in the earth kingdom from getting a loving statue of ice cream, she will never be denied by anyone. I mean she's rich and she's more sarcastic than Sokka, she's a freakin mary sue. And she can bend metal, it's like the creators want to over shadow the most devolped core characters for this little f*g. Aang can beat her because of the fact he's the star what about Zuko, Katara, and the others? they've showed more impressive feats than Toph has. And Katara fought of a bunch of firebenders in the first season that would put her miles ahead of Toph, yet everyone is saying she could defeat katara in a nanosecond, she probably could that br0ken b***h has the majority of all defeats with her plot godded daredevil ripoff sonar crap. In short she could defeat ozai and the majority of all firebenders by herself by just sensing the fire lord's movements. With out braking a sweat. Don't you think thats a little to god modish? she can feel every single creature on earth with her earthbending, and the fact that she WTF pwned the master earthbenders in 6 minutes, dude can bumi even beat her? Anyway Toph is a total plot device character thats annoying as hell and a really lame female character, if Asuka Langley Soyrhu had a bastard child she would name it Toph and both of them would spew out bithcy insults at the main characters. I don't why people would take cliched fanstasy camp characters over devolped down to earth characters that autually have personalitys that we could relate in a sense of reality. I mean Toph is a 12 year old girl with no balloons and a attractive face. mabey it's the thought that counts, right? (looks at Toph fanboys). No real girl in any perspective would act like toph acts at least not as spoiled and obvious as toph, at least in my opinion. So what if she's blind, cassandra cain has autism or something she still is more down to earth than crazy a** miss plot device thingy. Katara, she's a real badass. Cooler and Stronger than Toph could ever hope to be, mentally and physically. She taught aang a whole lot than toph ever did. She's traveled the whole world with aang and sokka, and in the process stook by them through thick and thin. She smarter than Toph thats for sure, and she's got more spunk. She's is whats called a normal well balanced character that has isssues but sticks to her guns no matter what happens. Toph complained like crazy when she join up she wasn't even excited to go on a journey in The Chase she was the rebellious little prick that refused to take some rules from the gaang, all she had to do was to f**k**g help out like katara said. She blamed sh*t on Appa and said she gave up all her spoils for teaching anng earthbending, f**k that bumi could teach that dude earthbending if he wanted to. Then in the desert she's taking Sokka's role as the comic relif, now sokka is no better than Zuko, he just the wipe up guy for toph's one liners. Katara spent all the time reading on how to be a master waterbender, Toph learned all by herself but has so much experance she's on a master benders level for christ sake. Dai Lee Soilders are suppose to be bumi level worriors but sense she's Da Wolds gwatest eath benda 0ne11111oneone, thats sign laguage for I'm the world walking plot device out of a Mary Sue's Equus asinus I sorry, but people need to remind them self on whom came first as total female fatale, Katara not Toph. Toph eventually is going to get old with the fans, and by some coincedence some other Mary sue is going to over shadow her. That is all.
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Post by SpiritBender on Jan 2, 2007 13:31:43 GMT -5
^^Dude, I think you're being a little hard on her. I'm not one of those people who worships Toph and I definitely don't think her bending skills are vastly superior to Katara's, but she's still a cool character who adds a lot to the show. I think it's interesting that she's immature and lacks a lot of social skills; just like Aang, she has a lot of room to grow as a character. Although she is frighteningly powerful and has tremendous potential, there are limits to her power. Her "earth-senses" only extend so far -- she does receive a lot of information that other people don't, but then she misses a lot by being blind. She also has the serious limitation that if you get her feet off the ground, or something is not in contact with the ground, she's pretty helpless. So far we've seen her in battles with earthbenders -- I think things will become more difficult for her once she starts fighting other benders. You know that she would have a really hard time against airbenders, since they can fight without touching the ground at all. And although the Dai Li are supposed to be "master earthbenders", they seem to be most powerful when attacking through stealthy means. In a direct confrontation, they are strong, but are not among the MOST powerful earthbenders. And somehow I doubt that Toph could beat Bumi yet. Although she probably has the potential, Bumi has 100+ experience on her, and is a brilliant strategist. If anybody else could bend metal, he probably could and just hasn't done it because he's waiting for the right moment to strike. In the third season, all of the characters are going to have to grow in even more remarkable ways than they have in the previous season if they're going to be ready to take on an entire army. This includes Toph. I think its likely that Toph will be teaching other earthbenders how to bend metal in preparation for the invasion, and being placed in this role will cause her to grow and mature more as a person. She will come to understand that she's fighting for something much bigger than herself. Sokka will finally receive the training he needs to become an outstanding fighter and be heavily involved in the invasion planning. Katara will continue to progress and maybe demonstrate some of the waterbending techniques we've only heard about, like controlling people's body's. And Aang will learn the aggressiveness he needs from firebending to properly embody the balance of the elements and truly be the Avatar. Not to mention Iroh and Zuko finally being where they need to be. The third season is going to be intense and inspiring. Don't be so hard on Toph. -- SpiritBender
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Post by azulafan1992 on Jan 2, 2007 14:54:56 GMT -5
It seems like everyone hates Katara and loves Toph. What did Katara ever do to make people hate her? And what did Toph ever do to make people love her? Is it because most people think that Toph's bending is better?(Which is not fair to say because Katara only has a little bit of water most of the time and Toph always has a ton of Earth) But I really can't see how she could be hated. I like all of the charactors(some more than others) and Katara is one of my faverotes. Well, I guess ppl like Toph more because she is tough and strong and has that anarchy feel about her. Katara is sort of Missy Sue-ish and she's just so... blah.
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Post by peabody on Jan 2, 2007 16:47:41 GMT -5
It is because she is ugly and her hair looks like a booty.
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Post by Firework on Jan 2, 2007 18:51:24 GMT -5
Hello, I hate toph, she's like this ideal fantasy camp female character that can't stand. She's tough, sarcastic, out speaking, and hardcore little tramp who has a disablity but is still better than most characters on avatar that only female fanfic writers can think up. She's just like Sarah Mcdougal and Gosalyn both from love hina and darkwing duck. A little Annoying tomboy brat thing thats totally mary-sueish to the point of typical plot holes. The fact she's blind tells us that she has an excuse for all her br0ken abiltys and characterization, that doesn't change the fact that she can get her way in any worst case senario, from getting into to any place in the earth kingdom from getting a f**k**g statue of ice cream, she will never be denied by anyone. I mean she's rich and she's more sarcastic than Sokka, she's a freakin mary sue. And she can bend metal, it's like the creators want to over shadow the most devolped core characters for this little f*g. Aang can beat her because of the fact he's the star what about Zuko, Katara, and the others? they've showed more impressive feats than Toph has. And Katara fought of a bunch of firebenders in the first season that would put her miles ahead of Toph, yet everyone is saying she could defeat katara in a nanosecond, she probably could that br0ken b***h has the majority of all defeats with her plot godded daredevil ripoff sonar crap. In short she could defeat ozai and the majority of all firebenders by herself by just sensing the fire lord's movements. With out braking a sweat. Don't you think thats a little to god modish? she can feel every single creature on earth with her earthbending, and the fact that she WTF pwned the master earthbenders in 6 minutes, dude can bumi even beat her? Anyway Toph is a total plot device character thats annoying as hell and a really lame female character, if Asuka Langley Soyrhu had a bastard child she would name it Toph and both of them would spew out bithcy insults at the main characters. I don't why people would take cliched fanstasy camp characters over devolped down to earth characters that autually have personalitys that we could relate in a sense of reality. I mean Toph is a 12 year old girl with no balloons and a attractive face. mabey it's the thought that counts, right? (looks at Toph fanboys). No real girl in any perspective would act like toph acts at least not as spoiled and obvious as toph, at least in my opinion. So what if she's blind, cassandra cain has autism or something she still is more down to earth than crazy a** miss plot device thingy. Katara, she's a real badass. Cooler and Stronger than Toph could ever hope to be, mentally and physically. She taught aang a whole lot than toph ever did. She's traveled the whole world with aang and sokka, and in the process stook by them through thick and thin. She smarter than Toph thats for sure, and she's got more spunk. She's is whats called a normal well balanced character that has isssues but sticks to her guns no matter what happens. Toph complained like crazy when she join up she wasn't even excited to go on a journey in The Chase she was the rebellious little prick that refused to take some rules from the gaang, all she had to do was to f**k**g help out like katara said. She blamed sh*t on Appa and said she gave up all her spoils for teaching anng earthbending, f**k that bumi could teach that dude earthbending if he wanted to. Then in the desert she's taking Sokka's role as the comic relif, now sokka is no better than Zuko, he just the wipe up guy for toph's one liners. Katara spent all the time reading on how to be a master waterbender, Toph learned all by herself but has so much experance she's on a master benders level for christ sake. Dai Lee Soilders are suppose to be bumi level worriors but sense she's Da Wolds gwatest eath benda 0ne11111oneone, thats sign laguage for I'm the world walking plot device out of a Mary Sue's a** I sorry, but people need to remind them self on whom came first as total female fatale, Katara not Toph. Toph eventually is going to get old with the fans, and by some coincedence some other Mary sue is going to over shadow her. That is all. .........Holy S**** Whoa, look Toph may be impressive and very strong for her age, but she is not a Mary Sue. Her sarcasm is her way of dealing with others. She's sassy. Toph acts so tough because she has been sheltered from the world for her entire life and has NO SOCIAL SKILLS WHATSOEVER. In her entire 12 years of life, before she met the gang, she had no friends at all. Toph's blindness makes her unique; her bending of metal was a way for Earthbenders to begin overcoming there one weakness: metal. And her blindness has disadvantages: she can't read, see anything not connected to her feet, write, or appreciate visual beauty. Toph cannot see anything not touching the ground. A huge hole in her advantage of being blind and an Earthbender. Toph isn't gorgeous like a Mary Sue, she's very insecure of her looks as seen in her tale in "Tales of Ba Sing Se". Toph is cute and tough, Katara would be more of the pretty one. Bumi CAN'T teach Aang Earthbending, he's stuck in Omashu. And Toph was right to blame Appa, though the shedding is a natural thing for him and certainly not his fault. And about bending, Toph learnt bending (presumbaly) by observing the wrestlers for 6 years. Whereas Katara became a master in about a week (theoretically). Katara is the one that skipped the years of practice meant to be a bender. The reason so many say Toph can beat Katara is because she has had SIX YEARS of practice! And Toph has trained Aang just as much as Katara. I don't know why you're angry at Toph for that. You're being quite unreasonable about Toph, she has her pros and cons. She has made the second season interesting. Without her, it honestly would have bored me.
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Post by The Blank Magician on Jan 2, 2007 18:59:10 GMT -5
Personally, I like Toph. It's just because....she's got my same sense of humor. Go figure.
Katara is a nice character to say the least, but the reason i think people like Toph more is because she's a little more how do you say....."fresh". Katara's been around and she really is one of the main characters in the sense that you see her ALL THE TIME so maybe people just get a little tired of that. Just guessing.
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Post by Coral on Jan 3, 2007 13:02:09 GMT -5
I like both of the girls but I think I like Toph better. Why? She's really funny and sarcastic. And tough. While Katara is, although awsome and tough too, a little bit less funny. I mean, she does say humorous things but Toph practicaly makes me fall off the chair.
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