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Post by Jade Celeste on Oct 27, 2007 20:47:14 GMT -5
Delete if already posted but... My theroy/ Question is.... How in the world did Iroh get the crown for the avatar and fire lord It bothers me... I thought maybe ursa gave it to him before she left family heirloum but it is bothering me...
Thoughts.....
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Post by WyrmKing on Oct 27, 2007 20:48:54 GMT -5
The Order of the White Lotus dug it up?
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Post by Monk on Oct 27, 2007 23:07:43 GMT -5
That's my bet: Order of the White Lotus.
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Post by Zenjamin on Oct 27, 2007 23:37:48 GMT -5
most likely, it was Ursa.
weather ursa is a part of the WLS remain to be seen. but zuko now holds the only thing that could lead him to his mother. it will be significant in that regard.
but the question then becomes, how did Iroh get it from Ursa? ill say it again Uroh/Irsa
both are seen as forces in the FN that could/would restore balance, have connections to the avatar, likely both are members of the WLS, ect...
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Post by Sakura on Oct 27, 2007 23:44:01 GMT -5
Order, peoples. They're awesome that way.
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Post by Maylene on Nov 8, 2007 21:04:50 GMT -5
Maybe there were friends, and seeing as Iroh was Crowned Prince of the Fire Nation before Azulon died, she gave it to him.
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Post by thelastavatar on Nov 8, 2007 23:49:22 GMT -5
The weird thing is that the village is buried in ash, so Roku's wife would have to go back and dig it up as a family heirloom to give it to Ursa. But the lava was undisturbed. Iroh might have gotten it from his journey into the Spirit World, through some crazy connection where he gets the Crown in the Spirit World, and when he returns it too returns to the Physical World.
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Post by nandireya on Nov 9, 2007 1:44:05 GMT -5
Maybe Ta Min or one of the little Rokus doubledback to get it before escaping? Roku wouldn't have seen them do it while he was battling the volcano and Sozin hadn't gotten there at that time.
I don't think we're supposed to question it...simply accept it...
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Post by bandanamama on Nov 9, 2007 17:47:43 GMT -5
Maybe there were friends, and seeing as Iroh was Crowned Prince of the Fire Nation before Azulon died, she gave it to him. I'm a fan of the "Iroh was the Crown-Prince" theory but not about OWL, Ursa or anyone like that digging it up. The temple that Roku called home was still on the island. I say that the fire-nation simply retrieved it and put it back into play.
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Post by Tungsten on Nov 10, 2007 17:47:57 GMT -5
Yeah this question has been bothering me too. In the Avatar and the Firelord, the top knot holder was left behind Roku's house while he was fighting against the volcano (you even see it on the floor as he runs out). The house then gets burried in ash and probably lava too. When GAang visits Roku's home the place has no evidence of being excuvated.
Maybe it's a replication or a fake? Could Iroh be lieing?
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Post by reasonable on Nov 13, 2007 16:44:02 GMT -5
Well, Sozin could have easily retrieved it. Makes sense why he would fly all that way, kind of help Roku, then betray him in the end. That "crown" was a family heirloom, worn no doubt by Sozin's father, and for those who haven't noticed, people in that family are really obsessive about their daddies. Just saying.
Anyway, it is clear that, despite being behind bars, Iroh's reach is very long. If he could get a letter out to Zuko, getting a small object into his cell wouldn't be a problem. For those who like crazy theories though, here is one. What if Ursa had stashed the "crown" in that cell during a stay there, long before Iroh ever was imprisoned?
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Post by WyrmKing on Nov 13, 2007 16:45:20 GMT -5
The crown was left inside Roku's house. I doubt Sozin went inside the house minutes before it was buried in ash.
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Post by random23 on May 26, 2008 21:41:16 GMT -5
it could also be that iroh recieved it from ursa to give it to zuko when he was ready to hear the truth
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Post by .....:~~LordToph~~:...... on May 31, 2008 21:13:01 GMT -5
What about the fire sages? They could have looked around the island for it. But the OWLs are the best bet
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Post by avatarjanicki on Jun 1, 2008 8:44:52 GMT -5
I believe it was handed down in some shape or form.
There can also be more than one of the royal artifact. Being that its supposed to be royal, I think they had made more than one of them.
It sort of looks like what Azula is wearing on her head. I know its not, but very similar.
But I'm thinking that the one Iroh had was his own at one point. He's probably had it for years and kept it.
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