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Post by lunauc on Jan 27, 2007 16:41:17 GMT -5
Wow. That's pretty smart right there. I had been wondering how that would have really smart idea. I think Toph is the best earthbender in the world, because she is the only one who can bend metal (Although in "King of Omashu" Bumi claims to Aang that he is the best earthbender Aang will ever see) And plus she says she is all the time. (:-D) For all we know Bumi can bend metal. It's just that nobody ever asked. I'm more curious how he knew exactly what Aang was looking for in an Earthbending teacher. After all, it was the combination of the swamp vision and Bumi's advice which let Aang to Toph. So, how did he know?
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Post by krissykay on Jan 27, 2007 18:55:31 GMT -5
For all we know Bumi can bend metal. It's just that nobody ever asked. Haha! That sounds like something he would do (or say). But that is kind of strange, how he knew that. Maybe it's like a master earth bender common knowlodge, or technique, or one of the eighty five jings he was talking about. I wonder if those jings will ever come back into the story. Bumi, Pathik, and koh all seem to know more than they are telling. But they are all so different. Any way, I think the Nick website says Toph is the first to be able to bend metal, but Bumi may have learned it at some point, or something. Maybe that's how he will escape.
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Post by lunauc on Jan 27, 2007 20:07:37 GMT -5
Somehow I get the feeling he could escape whenever he feels like it, metal bending or not. Though I am betting that while Toph is the first person to ever bend metal on the show, she's probably not the first person in the world. As for Bumi's conection to Koh and Pathik... crazy cool beards(koh had one with the old man's face). Know who else has a cool beard? Iroh. And they all, with the exception of Koh, may have one thing in common. Namely the White Lotus society. Could it be that Bumi really did know there was another meant to teach Aang earthbending, and maybe more?
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Post by taiyo *on limited hiatus* on Jan 27, 2007 20:37:19 GMT -5
Could be. I believe it was destiny!
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Post by krissykay on Jan 28, 2007 19:22:59 GMT -5
!! The white lotus society, so smart! That's strange, it's probably true! I think Bumi and Pathik seem like members of the White Lotus society. If only we knew what it was.
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Post by lunauc on Jan 28, 2007 19:51:22 GMT -5
!! The white lotus society, so smart! That's strange, it's probably true! I think Bumi and Pathik seem like members of the White Lotus society. If only we knew what it was. Obviously the White Lotus represesnts a religious splinter group, deteremined to seek out and restore the spiritual opposite of the Avatar, joining them once more and bringing about a new age of balance and enlightenment. That.. or a tea drinking club. It's kind of a toss up.
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Post by reasonable on Jan 29, 2007 23:48:03 GMT -5
After all, it was the combination of the swamp vision and Bumi's advice which let Aang to Toph. So, how did he know? Actually it was a combination, in order, of Bumi's advise, a mysterious tornado, and the swamp's visions that led Aang to Toph. Other's can argue that what Bumi said was not meant to be prophetic and that destiny had nothing to do with Toph teaching Aang. A whirlwind, that only the extinct, save for Aang, race of airbenders could possibly make, appearing out of no where and depositing the GAang into that swamp is another matter all together.
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Post by K9Thefirst1 on Aug 8, 2007 18:02:56 GMT -5
Well, the stuff I gather I tend to glean from other fans and expand upon.(don't look at me like that! Shakespeare did the same thing! ...Actually, he flat out plagiarized some of his stuff) A good while ago, I came across a Zutara multi-one shot compilation that included a little ficlet about how the Avatar isn't the only reincarnated spirit. According to that story, there was also The Enemy and The Guardian, which were obviously Zuko and Katara respectively. When I read that I was utterly wowed by the concept, and instantly expanded on that by adding 'The Lover', started planning for a fic where Aang meets a past Avatar who explains it to him. My diligence to writing being as it is(virtually non-existent), the story has never been written, but has changed and morphed to something less Newbish.(with no disrespect to the author) The theory that evolved from this is a sort of Antiavatar, who the Avatar is forever destined to find and fall in love with. Sound similar to this? Believe it or not, the roots of this thought came about before I saw either this thread OR that livejournal post this thread is based on. In fact, this is the first Avatar thread I've ever seen, let alone joined/commented on. Great Minds no? ------------------------------- Now for something that actually adds something. I do agree that Toph would be a better match for Aang in regard for the need for balance. While Katara, for lack of a better word, 'baby's' Aang, making it difficult in the future for the boy to make important decisions when he gets older. While Toph, with her 'Tough Love' methods, makes Aang get strong enough to rely more on himself when the situation calls for it. The idea for that is beautifully shown in DamageCtrl's Whisper Into the Sky.. More specifically chapter six of said story. Reading Rhythm of the Rain, while encouraged, is not needed to enjoy the story.What's that? Shameless plug? NOOooo! Whatever gave you that idea? P.S.: Hi, I'm a newb.
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Post by reyairia on Aug 10, 2007 5:07:43 GMT -5
I have this thread bookmarked. Something I'd like to add in support to this theory is that I was seeing some close up screenshots of Toph during the swamp and she didn't have a face.
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Post by mike1921 on Aug 10, 2007 5:24:48 GMT -5
Bumi's advice was a coincedence I think. Bumi's advice was nuetral jing. That's not specific enough to know anything other then "he really understands earthbending" . if he suggested that Aang go to gaoling and say it was for no apparent reason then I'd be suspicious.
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Post by lunauc on Aug 10, 2007 5:31:29 GMT -5
I have this thread bookmarked. Something I'd like to add in support to this theory is that I was seeing some close up screenshots of Toph during the swamp and she didn't have a face. Hmmm.. that's actually really interesting. When I think back, you really don't see any definition of Toph's face in the swamp vision itself. It's not until he sees her in the Earth Rumble that he has a flash back and the face is added to the vision. Rediscovering her new face perhaps...?
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Post by reyairia on Aug 10, 2007 6:11:44 GMT -5
I have this thread bookmarked. Something I'd like to add in support to this theory is that I was seeing some close up screenshots of Toph during the swamp and she didn't have a face. Hmmm.. that's actually really interesting. When I think back, you really don't see any definition of Toph's face in the swamp vision itself. It's not until he sees her in the Earth Rumble that he has a flash back and the face is added to the vision. Rediscovering her new face perhaps...? Yeah, but judging on how Yue appeared to Sokka as the moon spirit the people appear in the swamp how they looked after they are gone/lost/dead. Anyway, here's a close up. No face.
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Post by mike1921 on Aug 10, 2007 6:25:24 GMT -5
So Toph will die from koh. *beats Koh up in advance* Either that or Aang was far enough where no matter how far you zoom in from Aang's sight when he got that glympse it wont be a clear picture.
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Post by reyairia on Aug 10, 2007 6:30:07 GMT -5
So Toph will die...........from koh. *beats Koh up in advance* Either that or Aang was far enough where no matter how far you zoom in from Aang's sight when he got that glympse it wont be a clear picture. It's possible, but seeing this is a kid's show and not supposed to be tragic it's likely Aang may save her somehow. I doubt it. There would be at least a little bit of detail, because they were able to shade the area fine, but they didn't include anything that could indicate the presence of a face.
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Post by lunauc on Aug 10, 2007 14:33:52 GMT -5
It's possible, but seeing this is a kid's show and not supposed to be tragic it's likely Aang may save her somehow. I doubt it. There would be at least a little bit of detail, because they were able to shade the area fine, but they didn't include anything that could indicate the presence of a face. Well, if you look back to the idea of Toph being the reincarnation of the love of the Avatar who had her face stolen, it makes sense that the spirit vision of the girl in the swamp had no face. It was not until he found her in Gao Ling and saw her new face that a face was applied to the vision. And yet, Toph herself cannot see the faces of others.
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