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Post by dragonflly on Jan 21, 2008 15:19:52 GMT -5
I have been waiting forever to see Bumi again!!!! When and how he gets out is gonna be big. I can't believe nothing's been said of him since 203!
Bring in th Mad Genius already!!!!
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Post by nexus on Jan 21, 2008 17:22:16 GMT -5
I have been waiting forever to see Bumi again!!!! When and how he gets out is gonna be big. I can't believe nothing's been said of him since 203! Bring in th Mad Genius already!!!! i'd love to see Bumi in action again. He's the most powerful earthbender in the Four Nations, and I'd like to see him fight some firebenders! A Bumi vs. Azula match would be cool. It would probably only last like 10 secs though, as BUmi just comes in to save Aang from getting nailed by Azula's lightning. Something like that.
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Post by inuyatta on Jan 21, 2008 20:02:09 GMT -5
Joo Dee isn't powerful or menacing--she's a pawn. But you are right--if they want BSS--they need to retake Omashu first. Bumi REALLY needs to be back in the plot somehow--and frankly, I don't see any more reason for them to stay at the WAT, considering Aang now knows how to firebend. He can now just take the practice on the go, and really--they need to go back to the EK where they have allies. Start in Omashu and work their way towards BSS towards the latter portion of the season to draw out Azula and Ozai.
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Post by nexus on Jan 23, 2008 13:13:37 GMT -5
Joo Dee isn't powerful or menacing--she's a pawn. But you are right--if they want BSS--they need to retake Omashu first. Bumi REALLY needs to be back in the plot somehow--and frankly, I don't see any more reason for them to stay at the WAT, considering Aang now knows how to firebend. He can now just take the practice on the go, and really--they need to go back to the EK where they have allies. Start in Omashu and work their way towards BSS towards the latter portion of the season to draw out Azula and Ozai. i highly doubt Ba Sing se will be freed. It would take up 2 episodes at least, and I don't want 2 of the 7 remaining episodes to be wasted on more Ba Sing Se. The entire second half of Book 2 was based around Ba Sing Se, I can't stand any more of it. Besides, there'd be no point in going all the way back to Ba Sing Se, and then ALL THE WAY back to FN capital. Omahsu's on the west coast of EK, so I guess it'd be easy to get back and forth from WAT >>> Omashu >>> FN Capital. Well, one thing that could happen is that insurgents within the Dai Li (on the Gaang's side) manage to topple the Dai Li, regain control of Ba Sing Se and then the Earth King's Army is free to march to the aid of the Earth army of Omashu and Northern Water Tribe at the final battle.
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Post by blak_cat on Jan 23, 2008 16:52:41 GMT -5
Joo Dee isn't powerful or menacing--she's a pawn. But you are right--if they want BSS--they need to retake Omashu first. Bumi REALLY needs to be back in the plot somehow--and frankly, I don't see any more reason for them to stay at the WAT, considering Aang now knows how to firebend. He can now just take the practice on the go, and really--they need to go back to the EK where they have allies. Start in Omashu and work their way towards BSS towards the latter portion of the season to draw out Azula and Ozai. i highly doubt Ba Sing se will be freed. It would take up 2 episodes at least, and I don't want 2 of the 7 remaining episodes to be wasted on more Ba Sing Se. The entire second half of Book 2 was based around Ba Sing Se, I can't stand any more of it. Besides, there'd be no point in going all the way back to Ba Sing Se, and then ALL THE WAY back to FN capital. Omahsu's on the west coast of EK, so I guess it'd be easy to get back and forth from WAT >>> Omashu >>> FN Capital. Well, one thing that could happen is that insurgents within the Dai Li (on the Gaang's side) manage to topple the Dai Li, regain control of Ba Sing Se and then the Earth King's Army is free to march to the aid of the Earth army of Omashu and Northern Water Tribe at the final battle. I agree, seeing Ba Sing Se freed would take far to much time for the limited amount of time left in the season. My guess is they'll just mention a plan about freeing it, lacking detail so that we know it'll be freed without having to actually see it done. Besides, it's almost a given that if the Fire Nation falls, they'd be forced to yield their occupation in Earth Kingdom territory which includes the capital.
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Post by inuyatta on Jan 23, 2008 22:21:22 GMT -5
I don't think it'd take that long if the WLS is setting it up to be taken back quickly and quietly. And for some reason, I wasn't set on the final fight being at the FN capital--I figured a re-taking of BSS would draw Azula and Ozai out to do battle themselves.
Of course, I only formed this theory on several things, one being Pian Dao mentioning how ingenuous Sokka was for learning to use his environment to his advantage--I don't think he's going to get the opportunity to do that in the FN--and since they spent all of Book 2 in the Earth Kingdom, I figured they ought to best their chances by taking the fight to a familiar terrain where they actually have some allies. I dunno, I'm still wibbling on the idea. I realize they have to go back for the prisoners, but if they manage to bust out themselves somewhat like Iroh did...lol.
Lol, the Buff old guy army.
Hm...what do you think the chances are of the next episodes 'The Boiling Rock' having anything to do with freeing Omashu and Bumi?
Because that would be amazingly awesome.
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Post by nexus on Jan 24, 2008 16:20:36 GMT -5
I don't think it'd take that long if the WLS is setting it up to be taken back quickly and quietly. And for some reason, I wasn't set on the final fight being at the FN capital--I figured a re-taking of BSS would draw Azula and Ozai out to do battle themselves. Of course, I only formed this theory on several things, one being Pian Dao mentioning how ingenuous Sokka was for learning to use his environment to his advantage--I don't think he's going to get the opportunity to do that in the FN--and since they spent all of Book 2 in the Earth Kingdom, I figured they ought to best their chances by taking the fight to a familiar terrain where they actually have some allies. I dunno, I'm still wibbling on the idea. I realize they have to go back for the prisoners, but if they manage to bust out themselves somewhat like Iroh did...lol. Lol, the Buff old guy army. Hm...what do you think the chances are of the next episodes 'The Boiling Rock' having anything to do with freeing Omashu and Bumi? Because that would be amazingly awesome. BUmi frees Omashu himself I think. Anyway, final battle won't take place at BSS. We've already had a huge story arc with a battle at BSS, that the writers aren't gonna have ANOTHER one. I accept DoBS was already an attack on the FN capital, but the next invasion will be a lot bigger because Omashu warriors and N.Water Tribe will be there, and the city won't be evacuated. And the WLS is REALLY overrated. They obviously have very little power and influence. Their main power is their knowledge and intelligence.
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Post by inuyatta on Jan 24, 2008 16:51:21 GMT -5
I really don't wanna state how powerful or not the WLS is until we actually know something about them, but since Iroh and Pian Dao are members, they're not going to be pushovers, strategically or otherwise.
I didn't really think that BSS would be the final battle's location either--but somewhere in the middle, perhaps? Gotta admit, battle on the ocean sounds interesting. If not, the Western portion of the EK itself isn't too out there. I mean, Sokka has knowledge of how to get through those SECRET TUNNNEEELLLLS (sorry, couldn't help myself) and if he doesn't, Toph would.
I have a hard time believing Bumi will free Omashu entirely on his own, but nonetheless, I put nothing past the crazy old folk. XD
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Post by liz6363 on Jan 24, 2008 16:59:18 GMT -5
the word closure has been ringing through the Tokka thread for a long while now. I think we either need a confession from Toph or the news to get to Sokka somehow and have some sort of confrontation before the show ends.
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Post by dragonflly on Jan 24, 2008 23:50:31 GMT -5
I really don't wanna state how powerful or not the WLS is until we actually know something about them, but since Iroh and Pian Dao are members, they're not going to be pushovers, strategically or otherwise. I didn't really think that BSS would be the final battle's location either--but somewhere in the middle, perhaps? Gotta admit, battle on the ocean sounds interesting. If not, the Western portion of the EK itself isn't too out there. I mean, Sokka has knowledge of how to get through those SECRET TUNNNEEELLLLS (sorry, couldn't help myself) and if he doesn't, Toph would. I have a hard time believing Bumi will free Omashu entirely on his own, but nonetheless, I put nothing past the crazy old folk. XD I agree. With the members we know are in this group, they are highly skilled, highly reguarded, and highly ranked, men. Push over, I think not!! I do kinda like the idea of the final battle being in Ba Sing Se. It took them 100 yrs to take the city, why not end it there too. I just think it'd be cool. Bumi will definatley break out on his own, the man can bend with his face, for crying out loud!!! I'm sure he won't take Omashu back on his own, but this is a mad genieus we speak of here, so anything is possible. I do think that he will be a part of the final battle in some way though, he's just to powerful of a bender not to include him.
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Post by nexus on Jan 25, 2008 12:31:23 GMT -5
I agree. With the members we know are in this group, they are highly skilled, highly reguarded, and highly ranked, men. Push over, I think not!! I do kinda like the idea of the final battle being in Ba Sing Se. It took them 100 yrs to take the city, why not end it there too. I just think it'd be cool. Bumi will definatley break out on his own, the man can bend with his face, for crying out loud!!! I'm sure he won't take Omashu back on his own, but this is a mad genieus we speak of here, so anything is possible. I do think that he will be a part of the final battle in some way though, he's just to powerful of a bender not to include him. Bumi won't fee Omashu on his own. But as we know from 303 "Return to Omashu", once Bumi frees himself, the rebels who fled Omashu will probably be somewhere close by to help him reclaim Omashu. One man can only do so much on his own. And I REALLY think it'll be at FN capital. No offense, but an ocean battle would be quite bad, because then the waterbenders would own everything. I REALLY doubt that they're gonna base the location of the final battle on the fact that Piandao told Sokka to use his surroundings to his advantage.... it's be quite anti-climactic what do we know about BOTH piandao and Iroh? Well, they respect the balance between ALL four nations. They're not really on anyone's side (though Iroh recently joined the Gaang's side). They've both proven to be passive and peaceful. What does that tell you about the rest of the WLS?
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Post by admirality on Jan 25, 2008 14:37:50 GMT -5
I was thinking about this in bed last night...
I really want to know how on earth does Ozai get down from his thrown cud there be stairs that fold out, does he just jump down, r there cool stairs made out of fire ......... I am curious..... This has to be the single most important end that needs tying off !
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Post by nexus on Jan 25, 2008 14:39:41 GMT -5
I was thinking about this in bed last night... I really want to know how on earth does Ozai get down from his thrown cud there be stairs that fold out, does he just jump down, r there cool stairs made out of fire ......... I am curious..... This has to be the single most important end that needs tying off ! LOL! Major lolz! Wow, you really do fantasize about Ozai too much.
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Post by inuyatta on Jan 25, 2008 19:59:15 GMT -5
I agree. With the members we know are in this group, they are highly skilled, highly reguarded, and highly ranked, men. Push over, I think not!! I do kinda like the idea of the final battle being in Ba Sing Se. It took them 100 yrs to take the city, why not end it there too. I just think it'd be cool. Bumi will definatley break out on his own, the man can bend with his face, for crying out loud!!! I'm sure he won't take Omashu back on his own, but this is a mad genieus we speak of here, so anything is possible. I do think that he will be a part of the final battle in some way though, he's just to powerful of a bender not to include him. Bumi won't fee Omashu on his own. But as we know from 303 "Return to Omashu", once Bumi frees himself, the rebels who fled Omashu will probably be somewhere close by to help him reclaim Omashu. One man can only do so much on his own. And I REALLY think it'll be at FN capital. No offense, but an ocean battle would be quite bad, because then the waterbenders would own everything. I REALLY doubt that they're gonna base the location of the final battle on the fact that Piandao told Sokka to use his surroundings to his advantage.... it's be quite anti-climactic what do we know about BOTH piandao and Iroh? Well, they respect the balance between ALL four nations. They're not really on anyone's side (though Iroh recently joined the Gaang's side). They've both proven to be passive and peaceful. What does that tell you about the rest of the WLS? Methinks you misquoted me, Nexus. ;D It's cool though--you do have a point that an ocean battle could be anti-climatic. Perhaps Sokka will learn more about that secret river that leads to the palace--I found it strange they didn't make use of that when it was mentioned in 'The Headband'. What do we know about Pian Dao and Iroh? Well, for starters, they're both experts at what they do, they care about maintaining balance between the four nations, and they know a hell of a lot more than most of the main cast about anything--I'm pretty sure they've been set up to do something big, but from the sidelines--which is how most secret societies operate. I think we can assume that the WLS is all for restoring balance to the four nations--so they're going to aide the Gaang in some form or fashion.
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Post by Kin~ on Jan 26, 2008 0:54:31 GMT -5
Heres one from an episode I was rewatching lately: What happened to the fire sages at Roku's temple?
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