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Post by teknomage on Nov 20, 2005 12:06:41 GMT -5
Are there no other waterbending masters in the whole tribe? I find that really hard to believe. But of course, given that it's not his rule but the who'e tribe's, chances are he's the only one who would've agreed to teach Katara. Once he learned who her grandmother was. I wonder if the rule will be changed, or if Paku himself could be ostracized for teaching her.
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Post by aanggirl on Nov 20, 2005 12:46:19 GMT -5
so the northen water tribe is sexist then.
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Post by firephoenixflame on Nov 22, 2005 23:43:24 GMT -5
Paku is probably the best Waterbending master in the Northern Water Tribe, hence why he'd be on such friendly terms with the Cheif. Paku also can not be blamed for not wanting to teach Katara. Traditions are something very old and very respected, espically in the Asian world which Avatar is based off of. The tradition of females not waterbending is probably very old, hundreds of years old. Everyone in the Northern Water Tribe knows it and I would not doubt to say that the Southern Water Tribe had similiar rules but they probably relaxed them because they were beginning to feel the effects of the War. Katara's waterbending is accepted in the Southern Water Tribe because she is the ONLY waterbender left in the Southern Tribe.
Now, Here comes Katara who is from a culture now almost totally seperated from the Northern Tribe who has managed to survive. She does not know the traditions, nor does she seem to respect them (who can blame her?). She is devastated at first, and Aang has an outburst, but she swallows her pride and goes to a healing lesson which I'm sure did her some good. She then returns and has a huge anger outburst which does not appeal to Paku's favor more. He sees her as a spoiled little girl with a ego. Don't get me wrong, I was cheering Katara on during her fight with him, but that is how he saw her. She went against his traditions, but she proved she is a natural waterbender and can think quickly on her feet. She simply needs her skills honed and refined and she needs more knowledge of waterbending. Paku discovering that Gran-Gran was her grandma probably reminded him that she left the tribe becuase of the restricting traditions. He realizes that the traditions, while traditions, are not written in stone. The world is at War, Katara is one of the Companions of the Avatar thus putting her in extreme danger. Paku relaxes the rule for this reason and perhaps out of respect and love for her Grandma.
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Post by writer on Nov 23, 2005 13:18:51 GMT -5
*Claps* Thank you I've been wanting to say that
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Post by teknomage on Nov 23, 2005 13:57:28 GMT -5
Anyway, even if the show is based in Asian culture, it obviously takes liberties. And it's a wuxia show anyway, so... there's no reason not to let females be warriors. Look at Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon...
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Post by jadawulf on Nov 23, 2005 20:26:24 GMT -5
Well, the Kyoshi warriors were all female, so it's not like this is common in the Avatar world.
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Post by Chibi Chan-o on Nov 23, 2005 20:30:47 GMT -5
A lot of people in the tribe saw Katara fighting Paku, so someone would have said something about him teaching her. Apparently, Katara is an exception.
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Post by firephoenixflame on Nov 25, 2005 0:24:41 GMT -5
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon is a Movie. Just like Avatar is a cartoon show. And I believe the Warriors of Kyoshi are an exception becuase Avatar Kyoshi was a great Avatar who probably protected her island home with p@ssion. Therefore, the Warriors were formed in her honor. Those people who cheered on Katara I believe were mostly children and young women who probably are beginning to realize "Hey... we have rights too.".
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Post by Kanna on Nov 25, 2005 2:58:40 GMT -5
Pakku is alright, he wasn't nice at first but by the end of the episode he was kind of nice to Katara...
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Post by Cala Akina Morushiku on Nov 25, 2005 19:44:08 GMT -5
oh, i thought Paku was pretty cool actually. If you think about it, all of Avatar's world seems (to me at least) to be male dominated. It's no wonder he's like that. Not that I'm agreeing with it, of course. I don't know. I really dislike Katara, so I was kind of biased towards Paku, I guess. Anywho, I thought while I was watching that episode, "Wow, if I was an old man, I think I'd be Paku...." so, yes. That is why I liked him.
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Post by palindrome on Nov 26, 2005 15:12:45 GMT -5
I liked him. ^_^ Yeah, he was sexist, but he was probably just a product of his culture and what-not...Bet he was really cute when he was going after Gran-Gran, would have liked to see that.
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Post by teknomage on Nov 26, 2005 22:48:54 GMT -5
Pakku said something like, "if you want to relax, I suggest you visit a tropical island." Which made me wonder, why do we only see water tribes from the north and south poles? Why no tropical water tribes? Has the Fire Nation destroyed them all, or were there never any to begin with, or what? Also, if there have been like a thousand Avatars, as Roku said, surely alot of them have been female, and some of them must have been female waterbenders from the Northern Water Tribe, statistics demands it!
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Post by AvaTar-SW on Dec 21, 2005 22:17:09 GMT -5
i never knew there was a forum about me!
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Post by AvaTar-SW on Dec 21, 2005 22:20:15 GMT -5
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Post by dirtydylan on Dec 21, 2005 22:28:12 GMT -5
The thing about Pakku is that he can't be blamed for his sexism. It's just a part of culture. It's almost like what's going on right now with gay marriage, sort of.
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