Leaf
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Post by Leaf on Oct 19, 2013 17:37:52 GMT -5
What did the second Avatar have to deal with following the demise of Avatar Wan? How many battles did he or she have to fight in order to ensure peace remained?
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Dr. Joe
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Post by Dr. Joe on Oct 20, 2013 0:26:04 GMT -5
The first thing he'd have to deal with is actually finding out he is the avatar.
The pattern for the Avatar's reincarnation is just being established, so no one is actively looking for (or even expecting) Wan's successor. Unless Ravaa or ghost Wan come down and tells him, he'll probably have found out after accidentally bending a non-native element.
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Leaf
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Post by Leaf on Oct 20, 2013 1:48:31 GMT -5
Why wouldn't Raava be involved? Doesn't seem like she'd just stand aside and let the successor to her friend not know. How old is their world if Raava and Vaatu fought before and before that and so forth. Raava knows Wan will reincarnate which I still do not understand how he obtained that power.
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Post by Musogato on Oct 20, 2013 2:42:48 GMT -5
Raava and Wan were bonded forever (or so said in the episode), but it's possible it might take a few years before she becomes self-aware enough to inform her host of sorts, or for the child to be able to comprehend Raava's presence. Or it might be like how real-world cultures treat the reincarnation theory in that for the most part the past life is forgotten, and that's why sages were trained to find and teach the Avatar in later eras. As for Wan reincarnating, I figure it's either something all people do (and there's just no way to track the previous lives), or Wan is only able to do it because his spirit was bonded with Raava's. And if that's the reason, it's also why it is so imperative that the Avatar not die while in the Avatar State, because that would sever Raava's bond and thus end the Avatar cycle. Their world seems to be super old though. I guess the Avatar cycle has been around for 10,000 years if this is the first ( ) Harmonic Convergence thingy since Wan. And Vaatu said something about living for ten thousand lifetimes before humans even existed, so that measurement would be in spirit lifetimes (?), which also seems like it would be ridiculously long. I bet Koh would know the answer. Isn't he supposed to be from the beginning? As for the 2nd Avatar, I imagine she or he would like Dr. Joe said have to establish that they are the Avatar and all that that entails, plus continuing Wan's work of settling disputes between the human clans and keeping the peace between them and the spirits. With more and more people probably gaining bending abilities and leaving the Lion-Turtle homes, there'd probably be a lot of issues with that too and power/ruling shifts.
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Post by Alouncara on Oct 28, 2013 8:26:04 GMT -5
I'm curious at to when Raava no longer was a conscious part of the Avatar. Is she still in there,minding her own business? Or has she faded to where she is merely a power source and the thread that holds all the other Avatars together?
The Avatars of now have lost their connection from her. Could this potentially explain the difficulty Aang and Korra had connecting with the Avatar state?
Another thing I'm curious about... Raava bestowed bending whenever the Wan was ready and had mastered an element. But as we see with Aang, the ability to learn bending is completely at the will of the Avatar. He started firebending way out of order before he'd even learned earth (granted he screwed up and set it aside for a while afterwards).
I think it's funny how this episode was supposed to be a explanation of the Avatar universe, but it's really just left a lot of interesting speculations and questions in its wake.
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