valentine
Warrior Sokka
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Tarlok
May 18, 2012 0:12:25 GMT -5
Post by valentine on May 18, 2012 0:12:25 GMT -5
I noticed that no one had made a Tarlok thread yet so I just had to jump on it and get some of my theories out of the way.
WARNING! If you haven't seen all episodes this could contain spoilers, and is full of my own theories so hang with me.
Right from the beginning I wasn't a big fan of him, and he made it worse as the show went on. It was pretty ridiculous how he invited Korra to his party just so he could "blackmail" her into joining his team.
But what I want to talk about the most is...He either IS Amon, or he is one of his "puppets" and this is why I think that. Tenzin commenting about Tarlok said something along the lines that he has a lust for power, and that he would do anything to gain as much power for himself as he could. Then when Korra, Bolin and Mako came to talk to the council, Lin Bei Fong stormed into the meeting and said that she would set her team up around the perimeter because their suits are "impervious to chi blocking". Then MAGICALLY the equalists show up with electrical gloves.
I think that Tarlok is working with Amon in hopes that if he helps him...Amon will let him keep his bending so he will be the only bender in Republic City...and he will get the power that he wants so badly. (of course I don't see Amon keeping his side of the deal)
What do you all think?
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dirtyyasuki
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Tarlok
May 18, 2012 9:12:10 GMT -5
Post by dirtyyasuki on May 18, 2012 9:12:10 GMT -5
It's not beyond the realm of possibility. But Tarrlok would have to be very ballsy to play closely with a loose cannon like Amon. Amon isn't looking for equality, he wants to turn the tables. Tarrlok would have to be exceptionally short-sighted and power-obssessed to want to deal with Amon.
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attonbitus
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Tarlok
May 18, 2012 9:32:13 GMT -5
Post by attonbitus on May 18, 2012 9:32:13 GMT -5
Yeah it's a very risky plan that could burn him easily. On the Amon = Tarlok... yeah I'm not on that boat yet, there's no real evidence so far.
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valentine
Warrior Sokka
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Tarlok
May 18, 2012 23:55:17 GMT -5
Post by valentine on May 18, 2012 23:55:17 GMT -5
Yeah it's a pretty far reach, but me and my friend were talking about Tarlok and we went off on this huge tangent about his connection with Amon. It was really funny listening to all their huge theories that had absolutely no possibilities at all, but after the whole electrical glove thing at the Arena there is definitely something fishy about Tarlok...Just don't know what it is yet. I just wanted to get that theory out there and see what everyone thought about it.
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Leaf
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Tarlok
May 19, 2012 0:14:38 GMT -5
Post by Leaf on May 19, 2012 0:14:38 GMT -5
Isn't his name spelled with an added R?
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Tarlok
May 25, 2012 22:19:45 GMT -5
Post by Musogato on May 25, 2012 22:19:45 GMT -5
Tarrlok is definitely an ambitious politician type, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was working with the Equalists/Amon to some extent to further his own career. He's already used them in a way to move Lin Beifong off the table, and since Tenzin is his biggest rival, he might be setting up plans to remove him next. Like some sort of chess game. But because Amon wants to remove all bending, it would definitely be a thin line for Tarrlok because it would only be a matter of time before Amon turned on him, though I'm sure it'd be the same for Amon in regards to Tarrlok.
However I don't think they are the same person because there is a skin-tone difference with their hands, plus voice actors. But I can't see Tarrlok as being just a puppet, because he so seems like the kind of person who is always looking out for Number 1. He could be tricked, but I would hope that it would be a better play than how Azula fooled Long Feng.
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Sheogorath
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Tarlok
May 26, 2012 22:05:14 GMT -5
Post by Sheogorath on May 26, 2012 22:05:14 GMT -5
It's possible Tarlok works with the Equalists, but I doubt it. He's a snake in the grass, no doubt about it, but he stands to lose his bending just as much as any other bender, especially if he tried to work out some manner of deal with Amon, only to have his so-called "partner" turn on him the moment he ceases to be useful. It's happened before in other stories, and even in this universe. No, I think Tarlok is just a master manipulator. He manipulated Korra into joining his task force. He manipulated Lin into wanting to guard the pro bending tournament finals. And yes, in doing that, he manipulated Amon into attacking the finals. I agree that Tarlok wants power, but the way I see it, he's playing both sides, trying to get rid of all opposition, not just benders, but anybody who poses a reasonable threat to him achieving his goals.
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Tarlok
May 28, 2012 17:39:10 GMT -5
Post by sokka4mayor on May 28, 2012 17:39:10 GMT -5
Tarlok = Amon? I'll denounce this theory when I see both on the screen at the same time..This series will have you paranoid about everything that happens...Like with Asami shocking her father after discovering his plans with Amon, 10 bucks says she knew about her father already Amon might need eyes on the inside and got her in with the group. Tarlok obviously works with Amon, hell he could be him. I'll only denounce it when I see em both on teh screen at the same time...
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Leaf
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Tarlok
Jun 2, 2012 20:54:24 GMT -5
Post by Leaf on Jun 2, 2012 20:54:24 GMT -5
Does anyone else think Tarrlok is a more frightening villain than Amon? He seems like he'd be the type to actually execute non-benders while all Amon ever did was just take away people's supernatural abilities.
And is it Tarlok or Tarrlok? I thought it was spelled with two R's.
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Esile
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Tarlok
Jun 3, 2012 13:07:51 GMT -5
Post by Esile on Jun 3, 2012 13:07:51 GMT -5
There's been some discussion of the possibility of Tarrlok as Amon on the current episode thread for "When Extremes Meet." The idea definitely crossed my mind during the last episode and I think it's a possibility. Both handle Korra in the same way both physically and psychologically, not to mention Korra has been knocked unconscious by both men in an extremely similar way animation-wise.
If nothing else, there are some strong parallels.
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Tarlok
Jun 3, 2012 13:39:51 GMT -5
Post by MasterEcabob on Jun 3, 2012 13:39:51 GMT -5
Does anyone else think Tarrlok is a more frightening villain than Amon? He seems like he'd be the type to actually execute non-benders while all Amon ever did was just take away people's supernatural abilities. And is it Tarlok or Tarrlok? I thought it was spelled with two R's. Definitely. Amon had that whole "creepy slow walk" thing down pat but was more of a Zhoa level of evil than anything else. This guy just rocketed up the levels, and is probably rivaling Azula as far as villains go. I'm a bit on the fence right now about his true goals. Either he's working with Amon to seize power or he's playing everyone, either way he's deliberately building up the Equalists as a threat in order to gain power. It will be interesting to see exactly where they go with this in the next few episodes.
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Tarlok
Jun 5, 2012 4:25:11 GMT -5
Post by stardragonsword on Jun 5, 2012 4:25:11 GMT -5
There's definitely not enough there for me to have a solid opinion on this but I'm leaning more towards the idea that Tarlok works with or for Amon,which I feel like that will blow up in his face later down the line if that's the case.
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Tarlok
Jun 5, 2012 17:11:37 GMT -5
Post by Paraiba Ocean on Jun 5, 2012 17:11:37 GMT -5
I don't know if I necessarily agree that Tarrlok and Amon are on the same page, or working together to achieve some sort of unknown goal. Now don't get me wrong, I think Tarrlok is a baddie in his own respects, but I'm always reluctant to believe all antagonists have the same goals or are in cahoots. (And since I just finished watching this movie, and I like to use examples from pop culture, I'm going to refer to what's going on in X2, the sequel to the X-Men film).
Amon and his revolution is an out of control response to an out of control/unfair level of dominance over a group of people. Simply put, Amon and his revolutionaries are people who are responding "violently" to try and handle a group of people they feel they can't necessarily control by using qi blocking and/or stripping away the power of benders. (For the X2 reference, this would be the group of humans who are wanting to kill/eliminate all the mutants because of the fear of being dominated by people who have a "natural" advantage.)
Tarrlok, on the other hand, represents the benders who are running around scared because this group of big bad guys are tearing up the city and taking away their bending either temporarily or permanently. In the interest of self-preservation, if you aren't one of us - you're definitely against us, which is displayed by how he imposed a curfew on ALL non-benders and rounded them up in the one district after taking away their power. Basically, let it be known they aren't dominant - and they never will be. (This would be the Brotherhood of Mutants, or Magneto's gang in this case; their response to the threat by the humans is to kill them in the same interest of self-preservation.)
It's like Amon lights fire to a gunpowder keg and instead of trying to address the concerns, Tarrlok just pours a trail of gasoline leading to a box of dynamite. Neither of them like each other, neither of them are working together, and they both hate each other, but the way they handle the situations escalade the problem TO war between two groups of people instead of away from war.
tl;dr version: Tarrlok and Amon are not in cahoots (in my opinion), but the way Tarrlok responds to Amon is equally detrimental to the cause of the benders and presents himself as an antagonist, just with a different agenda.
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Tarlok
Jun 5, 2012 21:04:03 GMT -5
Post by Nashk Tategami on Jun 5, 2012 21:04:03 GMT -5
That is a good way to put it Paraiba, and I don't really have much to add except that I believe Tarlock is a "Well Intentioned Extremist."
Just the look on his face when Korra compares him to Amon tells me he definitely doesn't like the guy. Whatever Tarlock is thinking in his head, I think he really believes he is doing this for the good of benders, and is finding himself in a situation that is slipping out of his control.
I believe this because as the series progresses, Tarlock starts out as a competent, if ambitious politician that slowly (and then suddenly) makes poor decisions until his recent "breakdown." Up until that point he was quick, and efficient with how he dealt with Amon's rebellion.
Now the series does kinda hint that something is going wrong. The policeforce is not responding fast enough to the equalists, and they are noticeably nowhere to be found until after the team catches them. I guess all we can do is wait and see where he is taken korra next episode...
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