Leaf
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Post by Leaf on May 16, 2012 3:04:13 GMT -5
What would you think if the Republic City Council voted on the creation of a Grand Army of the Republic to protect and serve the public during times of war and crisis?
Would Tarrlok be Chancellor Palpatine?
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dirtyyasuki
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Post by dirtyyasuki on May 18, 2012 8:28:26 GMT -5
Seems legit. Where do I sign up for my lightning gun and vision impairing helmet?
In all honesty I don't think URC was founded by the Avatar to have a standing army. I mean the city was meant to stand for ideals of peace. And while I know of the Roman adage of "Preparing for war to ensure peace", I'm sure Aang was a lot more idealistic than practical about his ideas on peace. The only thing that he seemed rather militant about was the preservation of the Avatar Cycle by turning the Order of the White Lotus into the de facto guardians of subsequent Avatar's.
Tarrlok would have a lot to justify to his fellow council members to be allowed to create an army for URC. Essentially creating a sledgehammer to combat the fine rapier of the Equalists threat.
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attonbitus
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Post by attonbitus on May 18, 2012 9:21:52 GMT -5
Seems legit. Tarrlok would have a lot to justify to his fellow council members to be allowed to create an army for URC. Essentially creating a sledgehammer to combat the fine rapier of the Equalists threat. Actually the attack on the pro bending match is all he would need. I see Tarrlok being able to manipulate the fear to make people want to give up freedom for safety. Oh it could start small, just community militia's to keep the neighborhoods "safe" then him saying they need more manpower to root equalist cells out. See him asking for bending mercenaries from the Northern Water Tribe to come help him, then it turns into an "bender's arms race" within the Council which would effectively nullify Tenzin's influence. An thus the end of Aang's dream.
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Leaf
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Post by Leaf on May 18, 2012 18:45:38 GMT -5
What role would the metalbenders play in Tarrlok's plans?
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Post by ILZ on May 19, 2012 18:25:15 GMT -5
I can definitely see the need for an army in Republic City. I understand the Aang and Zuko founded the city on the idea of peace and harmony after a hundred year war. And that obviously worked for sometime, but things are never perfect and there are always threats to peace. Up until this point, it seems that the police have been able to handle any real threats to the peace. However, that is no longer the case. The metalbending police are very skilled and powerful, but they all have the same fighting strategy so it is easy to disable them. If an army of benders from the three elements was to be created, it would be harder to defeat them since they would all have different fighting styles with their respective elements. I think Republic City is heading toward the need of an army, but I'm sure that the council (especially Tenzin) will not be in favor.
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attonbitus
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Post by attonbitus on May 20, 2012 12:03:29 GMT -5
^ on mixed bending teams.
Yep the task force that Korra joined showed water and earth benders working together. Interesting point, even though RC was a the brain child of Aang and Zuko, we haven't seen any firebenders in the police/task forces.
On the metalbenders, they fill the role of setting up the actual capture and/or situations were earth and water are not readily available, ie on air ships, factories, etc. If there were fire benders they'd fill the non resources available role as well.
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Post by ILZ on May 20, 2012 19:16:53 GMT -5
^It is very interesting that Firebenders don't really seem to be in any police or task force positions, but instead tend to be the benders that have performed actions that seem to motivate the equalists. Firebending would lend itself well to fighting in places where resources were unavailable, but it could cause some issues by destroying infrastructure.
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dirtyyasuki
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Post by dirtyyasuki on May 21, 2012 9:32:50 GMT -5
While bender's from all of the nations except Tenzin and his family would join Tarrlok's army even if he did manage to get the authority to make one, I doubt that Zuko and his daughter would allow any member of the Fire nation's army to join Tarrlok's efforts. Zuko having been a long time survivor of the wars along with Katara would know the cost of waging war to combat a threat that represents a clear and present danger but would need subtlety and not brute force to defeat. So I don't see how the Fire Nation would officially endorse and support Tarrlok's army building efforts while condemning the threat of the Equalists at the same time.
Bender's from the Water Tribes and Earth Kingdoms are another matter altogether and may not have such qualms.
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Leaf
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Post by Leaf on May 28, 2012 19:22:52 GMT -5
^It is very interesting that Firebenders don't really seem to be in any police or task force positions, but instead tend to be the benders that have performed actions that seem to motivate the equalists. Firebending would lend itself well to fighting in places where resources were unavailable, but it could cause some issues by destroying infrastructure. Wouldn't the firebenders be the fire department? And there was most likely fallout from the war, especially from the losing side.
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dirtyyasuki
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Post by dirtyyasuki on May 30, 2012 8:05:46 GMT -5
Great. Now I want to see a URC Firebender's Fire Prevention Department. That would be right up their alley. But considering the potential of all elements except Air, Water and Earth are just as viable in fighting urban fires as controlling it with Firebending.
I think it is interesting that there only seems to be metalbenders/earthbender's as the most visible law enforcement arm in the city so far. But we have seen from Tarrlok's task force that at least Waterbender's and regular earthbender's do make up a portion of the city's police force as the metalbenders have been mentioned as the elite's of the city.
However I do believe that regular non-bending fire fighting organizations are plausible within the setting given all the technology present that would seem to justify it.
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Post by ILZ on May 31, 2012 1:59:55 GMT -5
Great. Now I want to see a URC Firebender's Fire Prevention Department. That would be right up their alley. But considering the potential of all elements except Air, Water and Earth are just as viable in fighting urban fires as controlling it with Firebending. However I do believe that regular non-bending fire fighting organizations are plausible within the setting given all the technology present that would seem to justify it. I would think the waterbenders would be the most logical choice in firefighting. I could definitely see how Firebenders and Earthbenders and even non-benders would be useful as well though.
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