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Post by LightBender on Dec 24, 2006 7:19:38 GMT -5
Those are my opinions and thoughts and I still stand by them. I have shown your opinions and thoughts courtesy and respect. Please do the same for me.
I agree that Zuko flirting with Katara was not true, but I thought it was only fair to present all the possible speculations.
My points may not be necessarily right or true. The same goes for yours. We are not the Creators and we all shall have to wait and see what they decide to come out with.
If you wish to continue this discussion, I shall continue.
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Post by avaspaz on Dec 24, 2006 9:19:24 GMT -5
i have no idea which ship will 'set sail' but, i am fine with any pairing. i enjoy seeing hints of every ship in the show and cant wait to see more. zutara is my favorite, but that is just cuz i like the whole yin and yang theory. if kataang should happen, then yay kataang!
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Post by o0whitelily0o on Dec 24, 2006 10:24:16 GMT -5
*shrugs* Everything is relative. I just think that a mother/son relationship between Aang and Katara is much more sweet than any romance between them. To me, Kataang is no more than the Avatar version of Yuki/Tohru from Fruits Basket.
On another note, maybe Aang has given up on ever being with Katara romantically- I mean, he did give her up in order to protect her by going into the Avatar State. I know it failed, but who knows how that will affect his feelings for her?
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Post by LightBender on Dec 24, 2006 17:16:44 GMT -5
It might have affected his feelings. In order to actually go into the Avatar State, he had to give her up. Maybe it'll stay like that. Maybe not. I read Fruba, so that might be a possibility.
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Post by Melis on Dec 24, 2006 19:02:48 GMT -5
*shrugs* Everything is relative. I just think that a mother/son relationship between Aang and Katara is much more sweet than any romance between them. I think the way Katara is always looking out for Aang and being there for him is pretty sweet. I wouldn't call it a mother/son relationship because not only is Katara like that with everyone else, but Aang doesn't really go off running to "Mommy Katara" when something's wrong. I don't think he's dependant on her either, but likes/appreciates having Katara there as she tries to help him in whatever way she can/guide him/etcetc. I doubt this. Aang smiled when he saw Katara, so I don't think he "gave her up". There's been a lot of speculation going about what exactly the Guru meant by "giving Katara up", and I really do think it just deals with his attachment to her. He has to learn that as the Avatar he has duties to the world, bringing back balance to four nations, and peace as well. If something were to go horribly wrong and he had to leave Katara behind or he had to choose between Katara and The World, then he needs to know that his duties must come first. To add on his feelings: I can see him being torn and trying to figure out what's right and what's wrong. But in the end, I can see him choosing to save the world, but still keeping himself at a pace where he's happy and content. Or in other words, that he will realize even though he loves Katara very much, he cannot just push aside those feelings. He'll come to terms with it, and focus on saving the world. It might have affected his feelings. In order to actually go into the Avatar State, he had to give her up. Maybe it'll stay like that. Maybe not. As for Aang going into the Avatar State again -- I doubt this too. He'll most likely be afraid of going all glowly again because he was in danger of losing his own life because of it. It kind of sets into motion the idea that the Avatar isn't going to save the world, but Aang will. His own way, and on his own terms. And if he does need to enter into the Avatar State again: Who knows? Maybe there'll be other ways. Guru Pathik never said anything about opening his chakras being the only way to truly master the Avatar State. We're supposed to be hearing more about Avatar Roku in season 3, so maybe he'll show up again and talk to Aang about the Avatar State etc.
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Post by LightBender on Dec 25, 2006 18:25:18 GMT -5
He most likely will be afraid to go into the Avatar State again. He's going to have to get over that fear and the fear of firebending also. I don't think he actually got over that fear during the chakras. Maybe he won't need to go into the Avatar State to defeat Ozai. I'm not sure, but I think he's going to have to.
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Post by Power on Dec 25, 2006 19:16:58 GMT -5
The Avatar State, while immensely powerful, leaves a dangerous weakness, which can be exploited as we have learned from Azula, its only purpose is to increase his bending powers, but he is more better off learning to master the elements first for his benefit, then master the state fully.
Concerning his feelings and possibly Katara's, IMO I believe a talk between them about this, should clear up some things, while it may raise other questions, I believe encouragement and understanding between the both of them of their relationship and most importantly what is at stake in the world will IMO give Aang more drive and power, to fulfill his duty.
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Post by LightBender on Dec 26, 2006 7:58:59 GMT -5
I don't think, now, that Aang will be able to have any type of relationship, Taang or Kataang, until after the war. A relationship could possibly used against Aang while fighting Ozai. And we all know Ozai wouldn't be afraid to stoop to that level. Aang would have to pursue a relationship after the war was finished, and his 'love' of that person might have cooled off by then.
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Post by spook on Dec 26, 2006 9:17:03 GMT -5
I don't think, now, that Aang will be able to have any type of relationship, Taang or Kataang, until after the war. A relationship could possibly used against Aang while fighting Ozai. And we all know Ozai wouldn't be afraid to stoop to that level. Aang would have to pursue a relationship after the war was finished, and his 'love' of that person might have cooled off by then. So could friendship, family, or any bond of that kind. Romantic love isn't the only type of love that can be used against you, it's all kinds of love. If someone would threaten your mom, would you not want to help her? If what you say is true, then Aang must leave all bonds behind, not just his romantic ones. That's what I think the Guru meant. Aang doesn't need to give up his love for anyone, whether it's romantic or platonic, he just needs to learn not to act on them. And that doesn't require you to let go of everything, just discipline and control over your feelings. And that's what I think the first half of season three, or at the very least the first few episodes will focus on, on Aang trying to find a way to control his emotions. My guess is that either Iroh, the Guru or perhaps even Roku will have a part to play in this. Also, the creators might like a good plottwist now and again, they still are consistent. And up to now, they have put a lot of emphasis on the importance of friends, family and love. Aang, even though he is the most powerfull bender in the world, has shown to need others to support him if he wants to succeed. Same counts for Zuko, he tried to leave his uncle ones, only to learn in the end how important his uncle was to him, and how important he was to his uncle. Now, do you really think they're going to abandon that idea in season three? They're not going to put so much emphasis on the importance of love, just to make a complete U-turn at the end. Nah, my guess is that Aang will face the firelord with the support of his friends and his feelings intact.
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Post by lunauc on Dec 26, 2006 13:25:13 GMT -5
It's too early to say for sure, but I do enjoy speculating. ;D Kataang is still the obvious choice(regrettably). Since I see him either having never lost his love for her via the botched chakra opening attempt or it will be more of an angsty storyline in season three with him finding that love can never really be lost. Though I admit my personal hopes are geared toward Taang. Hopeless as it may be, if Katara does find a romantic interest with another character, and Aang settles in a platonic love for her, he might develope a closer friendship with Toph, he will probably lose all hope of her puppy love for Sokka if Suki is still alive. But if that doesn't happen, I can still dream in fanon and be just as happy. As far as Katara's other choices are concerned, I do believe Haru will resurface this season among the Earth Kingdom resistance, since they'll have to drop off the King somewhere, and if they're really going to be getting deeply involved in the war this season, what other army is there? So, she may kindle something with him. However, Jet could still be alive. This is a cartoon. People come back from the brink of death all the time at the most dramatic moment. And then there's Zuko. Either to be betrayed down the line by his sister or failing in what I figure is a plot against the Fire Nation(because even he can't be this stupid) it actually could come about that he'll join forces with the Gaang. Heck, the writers could even throw in a new character, some dashing young waterbending warrior, which would probably upset the kataang and zutara fans monumentally. And there's always the chance that she'll just have something of a romantic fling with one of these characters in season three, just to prompt Aang's jealousy and get him to step up to the plate. (Though I'm hoping he'll step down. ) I have to assume that if Zuko does come to odds with the Fire Nation, Mai might come with him, for obvious reason, as well as Ty Lee. As loyal as they may be to Azula, you have to admit it's more out of fear than friendship. So, Maiko may come about, and if they run into the Gaang, and they never saved Suki, Tykka is a strong possibility. This is like a soap opera. Of course it's more about us making it this way. The characters are mostly too young or too involved in other things to be thinking this deep into romance. This is our hang up. But at least we enjoy it.
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Post by ~ XxGRITZxX ~ on Dec 26, 2006 20:19:39 GMT -5
JetKo happened. Please don't make me repost my case. (For it is very long.) It didn't happen.... it was just some kitty sword fight that some people got hooked on or anything that was random Tophu, you should ship Zutara Katara x Zuko or Taang Toph x Aang
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Post by LightBender on Dec 29, 2006 7:16:56 GMT -5
Aang can try and face Ozai with his feelings in tact. And, the Creators will probably have that happen. But, I think Ozai will most likely find a way to counter that. To throw Aang off balance. Maybe not though. If Aang can get enough help, Ozai might not be able to prepare for it (Azula's most likely going to tell Ozai about Black Sun beforehand.)
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Post by Kyatto on Dec 29, 2006 11:27:43 GMT -5
JetKo happened. Please don't make me repost my case. (For it is very long.) It didn't happen.... it was just some kitty sword fight that some people got hooked on or anything that was random Tophu, you should ship Zutara Katara x Zuko or Taang Toph x Aang See that's what happens when people just see the surface of things and don't look deeper~ ....and then there's my theory that Zuko's a woman and Azula's a man and that's why Ozai hates him so much.... I'm such a horrible person X3!
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Post by LightBender on Dec 30, 2006 7:30:41 GMT -5
Kyatto: I'll just say this: that is very weird. It seems to state that boys are better than girls at bending. That may not be what you meant, but it seems to me to state that. I'm sorry if that's not how you meant it. Have you ever read/watched LOTR? Denethor hates Faramir becuase he's not as skilled as Boromir. Ozai's 'love' for his children could be similiar to that. And yes, love should be in qotes because I'm not sure he's capable of loving someone.
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Post by Kyatto on Dec 30, 2006 8:39:19 GMT -5
Kyatto: I'll just say this: that is very weird. It seems to state that boys are better than girls at bending. That may not be what you meant, but it seems to me to state that. I'm sorry if that's not how you meant it. Have you ever read/watched LOTR? Denethor hates Faramir becuase he's not as skilled as Boromir. Ozai's 'love' for his children could be similiar to that. And yes, love should be in qotes because I'm not sure he's capable of loving someone. Actually I meant nothing of the sort. I noticed that Zuko's outfits have been getting more feminine as the series progressed. Not only that, but have you seen his skintight Blue Spirit outfit? Flat crotch like a girl. My boyfriend and I had a long conversation about this filled with staring at screenshots and making intelligent observations. I would so laugh if that's the shocking revelation in the 3rd season. X3
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