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Post by Yakuza on Feb 15, 2009 1:33:14 GMT -5
Oh god just imagine the smell of all the diapers...
The problem is, that with any other debate there are some grounds and limits. But this woman has already beat the system. Its more or less "why should we pay?" rather than who. They cant take that woman's pension away.. That'd be pretty un-American. We just have to watch the problem snowball... She'll be fine.. Her kids probably wont be though.. And thats the only thing I hope for.. is that her kids turn out fine. Think of how kids are neglected in bunches of 3 or 4 kids... Ouch ya know? I wouldnt mind paying for her.. I just hope she raises the kids... If we are going to give her money she better dang well use it.
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Post by asian malaysian on Feb 15, 2009 22:51:57 GMT -5
^ Since the kids are already here, someone will have to pay for those kids and the smart money is that it wont be the mum. I dont think anyone is hard enough to punish them for their mum's ridiculous actions. Then again, Id seriously question whether their mum has the faculty to care for them given her behaviour that lead to their birth in the first place.
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Post by Sheogorath on Feb 16, 2009 3:53:48 GMT -5
Im sure youve all heard about the single unemployed mother of the octuplets who has been apparently depending on her own retired mum's pension to raise her previous 6 children. I came accross an artcile on msnbc that estimates it will cost 1.5 million bucks to raise these 14 kids. www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29128794/Since there is no way that she can raise the money, who should foot the bill? Also what are your views on stopping irresponsible people from having children they are not equipped to support or care for (assuming that you see that as a problem in this case which I certainly do). I dunno about the rest of that, but I certainly think that those who haven't what it takes to properly raise 14 children, let alone only one, should either not be allowed to by some law punishable by having the state take their children or the more socially acceptable path of having them be required to take parenting classes and actually finding a job of their own to pay for everything themselves before having children. I personally believe that people who are unable to properly care for children for whatever reason should be required by law to give them up for adoption to someone who could. Not everyone agrees with my line of thinking on this, I understand, but that's just me. You'd have a lot less babies crawling around in their own filth for no real reason and starving to death, that's for sure. You can't prevent someone who thinks they're ready for a child from making a serious mistake, but that's life.
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Post by asian malaysian on Feb 18, 2009 19:37:18 GMT -5
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Post by mike1921 on Feb 18, 2009 20:38:47 GMT -5
I saw a reporter on the news ask whether she'd want to be in a reality show(I heard people were considering it, and that would obviously mean money, ) . She said no because she thinks it's exploitation.....WHAT THE ***K!!!! She'd rather have her kids survive on less money than you need for one than have them be exploited in a way that barely hurts them if at all. She wouldn't deserve these kids even if she had the money for them since the start.
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Post by Sheogorath on Feb 19, 2009 2:15:21 GMT -5
I saw a reporter on the news ask whether she'd want to be in a reality show(I heard people were considering it, and that would obviously mean money, ) . She said no because she thinks it's exploitation.....WHAT THE ***K!!!! She'd rather have her kids survive on less money than you need for one than have them be exploited in a way that barely hurts them if at all. She wouldn't deserve these kids even if she had the money for them since the start. Personally? I can't stand reality TV, but if it were me and it meant getting the money to properly take care of the kids, I'd go for it.
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Post by asian malaysian on Feb 19, 2009 5:12:24 GMT -5
C'mon, dont you know how sour grapes sound like? The reality is that none of those studios are willing to touch her for those shows in the current climate and she wanted to come off sound like she wasnt interested in them anyway. Anyway, I hope everyone here would be responsible enough to consider rationally whether they can afford to raise a child before deciding to have one in the first place.
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Post by mike1921 on Feb 19, 2009 16:34:01 GMT -5
I saw a reporter on the news ask whether she'd want to be in a reality show(I heard people were considering it, and that would obviously mean money, ) . She said no because she thinks it's exploitation.....WHAT THE ***K!!!! She'd rather have her kids survive on less money than you need for one than have them be exploited in a way that barely hurts them if at all. She wouldn't deserve these kids even if she had the money for them since the start. Personally? I can't stand reality TV, but if it were me and it meant getting the money to properly take care of the kids, I'd go for it. I can't stand reality tv either. How is that relevant?......? Ehh, fair enough.
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Post by asian malaysian on Feb 19, 2009 20:16:45 GMT -5
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Post by Sheogorath on Feb 21, 2009 3:52:55 GMT -5
No, it was on the news Friday morning that a not-for-profit organization would be providing care for the kids. Well, one of the morning shows. The Early Show, I think it was. I wasn't paying too much attention, focusing more attention on resetting the clocks after the power came back on in my house, but apparently, a lawyer was called and after some stuff, this not-for-profit organization would take care of the kids. I dunno if they're going to take them away from her of what, but what I got from it was that their mother would have impact on their development. That's all 14 of them.
And Mike, to answer your question, I'm not sure it is relevant. I was just saying.
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Post by asian malaysian on Feb 21, 2009 21:43:45 GMT -5
^ From what I read, the group concerned said it would cost about $135,000 a month to provide the 12 caretakers necessary for the children and that the money for that would have to come from public donations. In this post- Madoff eccnomy? Good luck with that.
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Post by Gran Gran on Feb 22, 2009 0:42:52 GMT -5
hmm, a little over 1k a month a person, not counting food and diapers...yes?
staggering numbers....this lady sure didn't do her math (then again, I am sure some of the chicken she counted didn't hatch....re: sour grapes over the tv show deals falling through...
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Post by asian malaysian on Feb 22, 2009 20:07:01 GMT -5
^ You have to also consider the fact that those babies are still in neonatal intensive care at the hospital (they were born premature). Thats round the clock medical attention which must be costing a small fortune in itself. abcnews.go.com/Health/WomensHealth/Story?id=6774471&page=1"The real significant costs come on the pediatric side, particularly when it comes to neonatal intensive care," said Dr. Geeta Swamy, a maternal-fetal specialist at Duke University Medical Center. A full-term pregnancy lasts from 38 to 42 weeks, according to the National Institutes of Health, and Swamy estimated for babies born at 30 weeks the hospital stay could be "anywhere from six weeks to six months." For an infant stay in a neonatal intensive care unit, costs can add up to "a few thousand a day," she said. "So we are looking at probably several hundreds of thousands of dollars for the family. If it is $100,000 per baby, for example, then it would be $800,000 for all eight," Swamy said. " With that sort of billing in mind, who worries about the costs of diapers?
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Post by Gran Gran on Feb 23, 2009 11:53:49 GMT -5
true, I was not even counting the hospital bills.
having a term baby, healthy, able to go home after a couple of days costs you 12k, without the pediatric care.
There are just so many things wrong with this situation, every turn you come across another head scratcher. I mean wth was this lady thinking?!
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Post by asian malaysian on Mar 3, 2009 23:34:19 GMT -5
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