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Post by mike1921 on Sept 5, 2007 17:42:28 GMT -5
THis is from some Cartoon that you should all know"don't think of them as seperate because they are not, 2 I mean3 parts of the same whole" Christianity isn't pollytheistic
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Post by Grimmjow of the Funk on Sept 5, 2007 21:00:40 GMT -5
well demon god kind of admitted it but whatever. then jesus was god not his son?
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Post by Exorcist on Sept 5, 2007 21:05:39 GMT -5
No he was also consider his son. This is still confusing to me but w/e, i try not to think about it.
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Post by Chevalier Vi Liberté on Sept 8, 2007 2:42:12 GMT -5
Seriously, I don't see much CT in this thread at the lately. It's mostly people's opinions contrasting instead of actual debate. First, Christianity did come from Judaism. It's not too hard to realize that. The first half of the Bible is Jewish texts and the religion shares traits with Judaism. Also, Judaism was established long before Christanity. Here is the wiki on a comparison of both religions: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism_and_ChristianityIn the last part, Common Christian views of Judaism it says this: In general, Christians view Christianity as the fulfillment and successor of Judaism, and Christianity carried forward (and still does albeit in slightly modified form) much of the doctrine and many of the practices from that faith, including monotheism, the belief in a Messiah, and certain forms of worship (such as prayer, and reading from religious texts). Key word: successor To put is simply, Christianity traces its roots back to Judaism but their concepts of Jesus is where the religions were split.
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Post by Grimmjow of the Funk on Sept 8, 2007 3:04:54 GMT -5
Seriously, I don't see much CT in this thread at the moment. It's mostly people's opinions contrasting instead of actual debate. First, Christianity did come from Judaism. It's not too hard to realize that. The first half of the Bible is Jewish texts and the religion shares traits with Judaism. Also, Judaism was established long before Christanity. Here is the wiki on a comparison of both religions: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism_and_ChristianityIn the last part, Common Christian views of Judaism it says this In general, Christians view Christianity as the fulfillment and successor of Judaism, and Christianity carried forward (and still does albeit in slightly modified form) much of the doctrine and many of the practices from that faith, including monotheism, the belief in a Messiah, and certain forms of worship (such as prayer, and reading from religious texts). Key word: successor To put is simply, Christianity traces its roots back to Judaism but their concepts of Jesus is where the religions were split. isn't sharing opinions and debating what this thread is all about? i know iw as having a good time in this debate.
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Post by Chevalier Vi Liberté on Sept 8, 2007 7:15:18 GMT -5
Yes but you are suppose to be debating and not posting degrading things at each other. F*** your religious text and f*** your religious text is not debate and also breaks one of the rules for the board. Also, debate is about arguing your viewpoint through evidence and not simply stating your opinion and saying it is right and another's is wrong. I'm just trying to clarify things.
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It is possible to enjoy the debate by arguing your viewpoint through actual evidence as well.
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Post by Exorcist on Sept 8, 2007 14:27:50 GMT -5
Sk: What we were arguing about was that Cyanide said that Christianity is a branch of Judaism, but me and Krayziebone disagreed. We said Christianity was born from Judaism but should not be consider a branch but its own base. Then I compared the relationship between Christianity and Judaism, to Buddahism and Hinduism, since he doesn't think B is a branch of Hinduism. Then he got all mad and left.
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Post by Chevalier Vi Liberté on Sept 8, 2007 17:06:19 GMT -5
@exorcist You can disagree that Christianity branched from Judaism but it's the plain truth. Judaism is Christianity's base because that's where the religion came from. Without Judaism, Christianity might not even be here because the Jews were the ones who executed Jesus. The relationship between Buddhism and Hinduism is different though. Even though the two religions are closely related religions they are in some ways parallel to each other. Buddhism was created as an entirely seperate religion in a time where Hinduism and Islam dominated the region. Unlike Christianity where the main difference between Judaism and Christanity is each religion's concept of Jesus, Buddhism did not take the religion of Hinduism and shape it into a new one. Though, they share similarities, Buddhism did not originate from Hinduism but they share similar traits because their origins are from the same region of the world. You can see comparisons between both religions here: Buddhism and HinduismEither way, this thread needs to stay on topic so I guess that means the topic should get back to the Trinity.
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Post by Grimmjow of the Funk on Sept 8, 2007 23:04:43 GMT -5
if your saying that you can sayislam is also based off of judaism.
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Post by Consonant*** on Sept 8, 2007 23:23:51 GMT -5
if your saying that you can sayislam is also based off of judaism. It is.
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Post by Chevalier Vi Liberté on Sept 8, 2007 23:31:39 GMT -5
@layziebone Since Judaism was the world's first major religion that is still practiced today, many major world religions do have some basis or similarity with Judaism. Islam is no exception. Islam and Judaism
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Post by Grandi on Sept 8, 2007 23:42:41 GMT -5
if your saying that you can sayislam is also based off of judaism. You win 3 awards 1. Worst grammar in thread. 2. Worst supporting spelling 3. Lack of research in a animated debate.
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Post by Consonant*** on Sept 9, 2007 0:08:31 GMT -5
if your saying that you can sayislam is also based off of judaism. You win 3 awards 1. Worst grammar in thread. 2. Worst supporting spelling 3. Lack of research in a animated debate. Well, he's half right. The Koran borrows a lot of Biblical themes, from essentially being an alternative book of Revelations and detailing Mohammed's visit from Gabriel (The same archangel who came to Mary to tell her she was to have Jesus)
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Post by Exorcist on Sept 9, 2007 0:09:03 GMT -5
I'm just saying that christianity is techniquely not consider a branch of Judahism. Also it is true that if the jews didn't kill jesus, we christians wouldn't be here right now but i rather be a jew that believes in jesus, than a christian.
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Post by Chevalier Vi Liberté on Sept 9, 2007 0:24:01 GMT -5
^ That is because Christanity is not a branch of Judaism. It is seperate religion entirely but its roots do come from Judaism.
You rather be a Jew that believes in Jesus than a Christian? Please rephrase that because it does not make much sense. If you were a Jew that believed in Jesus then you would not be of the Jewish faith. Believing in Jesus makes you Christian. I think your're trying to say if Christanity did not exist, you would want to be a Jew who was against the Jewish concepts of Jesus and instead believed he was the son of God and the Messiah. The problem is that if Jesus was not executed then there would most likely not be any believers in Jesus left today and Christanity would not exist.
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