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Post by Aura of Cruxis on Aug 21, 2008 0:54:27 GMT -5
Gah, I just think that sex is the boy's twisted way of telling a girl that he likes her, and then the girls mistakes the thing for LOVE. OMG LOVE. HE LOVES ME SO HE'S GOING TO MAKE ME PUSH OUT MY FREAKING GUTS NINE MONTHS FROM NOW AND HE WON'T CARE AND HE'S NOT GONNA HELP RAISE THE CHILD, FEED THE CHILD, OR CLOTHE THE CHILD. I LOVE HIM TOO.
If you're gonna have sex, have it at an older age.
If you're gonna make a baby, have it when you can support it.
If you're gonna have either, have it when you're at an age when you're not gonna be traumatized for life...
I kinda hate how the high level of boys' hormones makes him a slutty thing. Girl's aren't the sluts, boys are. Girls are the vulnerable ones who need to be less attaching to people.
Yes, I'm blunt and a lot of you think I'm so horrible for saying that. Do your worst.
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Post by goten0040 on Aug 21, 2008 1:08:29 GMT -5
I agree on a lot of what you said - but girls can be slutty too. It's not just hormones anymore - it's image. The easy girls are more popular and they end up in trouble by the end of it. But that's okay now for some reason. "Mommy and daddy will take care of my baby while I have fun!" It's almost an epidemic here. *sigh*
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Post by Aura of Cruxis on Aug 21, 2008 1:12:06 GMT -5
Meh, but that image is because the boys kinda make pressure the girls to think like that. "LETS SEX. AND MOM AND DAD WITH THEIR TWELVE HOUR WORK SHIFTS WILL SOMEHOW TAKE CARE OF THE BABY."
I think parents need to be a little more strict. If a parent REALLY loves their child, they wouldn't let themselves emotionally torture themselves. They're just too afraid. I got strict parents who aren't afraid to speak their minds. I think it's the fact they spoke their minds clearly that makes me think like an old geezer. I like being an old geezer at fifteen frankly.
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Post by Grimmjow of the Funk on Aug 21, 2008 2:58:38 GMT -5
^ok hold up for a minute the real reason for teenage pregnancy is people ain't usin protection. yeah you can have your one night stands and all that but use a condom. and you don't have to wait till your 18 that is stupid 18 is just a number. if you are in a serious relationship use birth control it isn't that difficult to comprehend. the rules you are making just cause society to look down upon some people that made a mistake and label them as trash when if you go the proper way you can have your cake and eat it too. A-bloody-men! I totally agree. I personally don't care at what age someone becomes sexually active, as long as they are in at least highschool and are responsible about it. Use condoms and birth control. Be smart. As long as those items are used RESPONSIBLY they are highly effective and safe. Also lets face it...not every one is monogamous, some people just like having sex without being in a relationship. Not everyone needs to be in a relationship for a certain amount of time or be an adult (18) before they do the act, and you certainly don't need these things in order to be SAFE. As for preteens getting it on...I understand their urges but really they need to be educated about it and wait a few more years. When I was 10-13 sex was least of my worries, I was too busy playing and having fun. Kids are too eager to grow up these days. Have fun! Enjoy being a kid. I miss it. Sadly though education about sex for preteens seems rather lax these days. From what I understand sex-ed isn't taught as much in school now, or at least not until highschool. For me it started way back in elementary school O.o (granted we would laaaauuugh man, but hey we were still told) and continued till highschool. Also parents don't seem to be doing their job and talking to their children. I dont think a teen should be looked down upon just for having sex. Sex isn't a bad thing, and I don't think just because someone has done it doesn't mean they should be labeled as a pariah. Pregnancy however is different, because in most cases it means that there was irresponsibility involved. Thus they need to know the consequences of their actions. Like the saying "You made your bed, now lay it." Thank You. yes as long as you are responsible it is fine. but preteen is pushing it people have to be at least 16 in my opinion to start having sex. you ain't a lover girl if you have sex either. it is part of growing up.
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Post by Aanglover on Aug 21, 2008 9:00:25 GMT -5
my view on preteen preganies is this.. don't do it.simple as that.. if you do get pregnant at that age, it's not good for the baby or u. and sorry to say this, but u mostly likely won't have the $ for raising the child and your guardian/s will have to support it for u, or maybe, just maybe they guy who made u pregnant would if he's responsible enough (but i wouldn't count on that). I believe that u should start doing those things when you feel like your financially and emotionally stablefor it. A mother's job to me, is to be able to take care of the baby in the most responsible and calmest way you can, but how are u supposed to do that when you don't even have money to buy the baby food and it's crying from malnutrition. i'm sorry to sound so cruel.. but if you have a baby around your preteens or even your teens, it may seem like peaches n' cream at first, but it will ruin your life.
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Post by xtal on Aug 24, 2008 17:48:19 GMT -5
Yes, they can break. But, they usually only break when you are doing something with them you aren't suppose to, or using them wrong. As long as they are used correctly there is a very slim chance of them breaking. Same goes for pills, if you follow your doctors instructions and take them regularly when you are suppose to they are supposed to be 99 percent effective. Sadly alot of girls don't take them like they should. Quote:Also lets face it...not every one is monogamous, some people just like having sex without being in a relationship. Not everyone needs to be in a relationship for a certain amount of time or be an adult (18) before they do the act, and you certainly don't need these things in order to be SAFE. ^ I don't see how it is random. Someone in the thread, I don't remember who, made these certain stipulations as a good way to guage when to start having sex. Or maybe I read it wrong. Regardless, I just added a counter argument, I didn't pull it out of thin air.
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Post by mike1921 on Aug 24, 2008 21:49:13 GMT -5
True, but as far as I know there's no way to test whether someone used a condom. So if people are punished for sex only if they get pregnant, yes more people who didn't use them will get punished, but 1% of those who did use them will also get punished. And I nail 1/100 chances all the time in videogames.
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Post by Grimmjow of the Funk on Aug 24, 2008 23:34:24 GMT -5
fine dude don't have sex, but i think there are alot of ways to have it these days where you don't have to be that worried. just wait until college and you'll see what i mean.
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Post by Gran Gran on Aug 25, 2008 1:31:27 GMT -5
Hmmm
It's a matter of being informed about the risk. And frankly, 99% success rate...1% failure...I think it's a smaller number yet, but hey, how do you convey that there is a failure rate, how ever minimal.
If I had not heard the numbers previous, I would have guessed the companies that make them need to cover their butts...the Pill and condoms are pretty dang safe - if used as instructed!
But that does not mean you HAVE to have sex now. There is NO harm in waiting. Till when ever you are ready (generic, personal you) There is NO steadfast rule about it. Except - 13 or so is way too young. Personally I think before 16 should be a nogo, but mostly because of the 1% failure rate.
Oh.... and a girl entering reproductive capabilities (aka puberty) ought to see a doctor (gyn) at least once a year for check ups. Regardless if you are using the equipment or preserve it for later! (I am sure there are things that need to be checked with boys as well, just have no experience there...).
The bottom line is, you have to know what you are doing. I mean, really know, the good and bad. And how to deal with it.
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Post by mike1921 on Aug 25, 2008 11:48:49 GMT -5
fine dude don't have sex, but i think there are alot of ways to have it these days where you don't have to be that worried. just wait until college and you'll see what i mean. I don't plan to wait until after college, unless I still live at home, and if I still live at home I'll wait until I'm 80 if necisary, I plan to leave when I turn 18 so that doesn't factor in though. and I'm very aware of these ways. I didn't think they'd ever come up in conversation on these forums though. I'd still be pretty unnerved about the 1% failure. To me I'd be horrified of anything more than than no joke 1 millionth of 1%As far as I know most problems we should see a doctor for can either be found, or will hurt like hell within a week.
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Post by irishgal on Aug 25, 2008 17:19:21 GMT -5
I think the whole idea of 12 and 13 year old kids having sex is scary. And the thought of a 12 and 13 year old raising a kid is even scarier!
I think everyone devisers some blame in this....(no order just rattling off what comes to mind)
1-The girls as they should know better to go out and have sex with a boy 2-The boy cause, like the girls they should know better 3-The parents cause they should be teaching their children about sex and what it is and what cam happen if you do it. And with that, what happens when you have a baby and what it cost and entails. 4-The school...when I was 12 I didn't have sex education. Granted I didn't really get it fully until my senior year of high school. It sad to say that they should start really teaching them at a younger age. Lets face it...they are doing it! Might as well teach it to them. 5-The media....I think the media is mostly to blame for this. We are seeing alot of sexual images on TV and in movies and preteens are seeing them...and well they shouldn't really! (Again I believe the parents fault)
I just think sex is something you should do with someone when you are truly and honestly in love...And to be blunt...I don't think preteens know what love really is that young (I mean, I didn't)
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Post by mike1921 on Aug 25, 2008 17:29:26 GMT -5
Or at least when you know that you should have sex. I personally have no problems with people having orgies with people they just met and would barely care if they died. But wait a while until you do that. I disagree, I think the media is such a particle effect part of this problem it doesn't warrent a mention.
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Post by goten0040 on Aug 25, 2008 19:40:58 GMT -5
Really? Do you think so? This generation practically hangs on the breaths of people in the media. I think the media does have a large effect.
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Post by mike1921 on Aug 25, 2008 22:39:50 GMT -5
Yes, I think so.
Eh, well I guess my school is just different then because no one ever talks about any famous people besides presidential candidates, this is including the guys who spend all day trying to think of a way to get their girlfriend to have sex with them.
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Post by Aura of Cruxis on Aug 27, 2008 23:53:10 GMT -5
Really? Do you think so? This generation practically hangs on the breaths of people in the media. I think the media does have a large effect. Seriously! A lot of people want to see the cutest/hottest/most popular stars f*ck their lives up and the media doesn't really say much about the dangers. My little sis, who's only 8, hasn't had the "sex" talk yet, but knows about Jamie Lynn Spears and how she wasn't pregnant. She talked about it to me like it wasn't a big deal. "...I love Jamie Lynn Spears! Hey, did you know she was pregnant?" Gah, pretty much anyone born 1999+ will be screwed by the media and peers...Right now, I really wish my little sis will like girls, not guys...Gah. I kinda don't want to be father now...I don't wanna be responsible for making my baby boy/girl be a parent if they end up being one... (I'm not gonna be responsible, really...But I don't wanna be the daddy of the kiddy parents. Just saying those two words side by sides send shivers down my bottle. XD Geico CM reference.) Gah, I'm too young to be thinking 'bout this.
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