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Post by random bender on Oct 8, 2008 15:29:05 GMT -5
that is true. i also felt some pitty for Ozia when he relized what he was up against with aang. and we never really knew much about him exept the fact he was the antagonist. he was not a very round charector like many bad guys in movies or books. Zuko's back ground went above and beond, and we got a peek in to Azula's. but nothing really about oazi at all.
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Post by jillrg on Oct 14, 2008 23:27:52 GMT -5
I don't pity Ozai, but I heartily agree he would have preferred death to Aang's punishment. The warrior heart would choose death in combat over being taken prisoner and humiliated (and in this case, stripped of your powers on top of that) any day. Too bad they won't listen on TV Tropes.
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fallendragon
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Post by fallendragon on Dec 20, 2010 2:05:07 GMT -5
Reading this thread, I realized how bad of a fate Ozai has come to, he's lost his bending and everything he owns. Conservatively, bending is as close to you as you are as close to your main arm, your bending IS you, and without it, well what are you?
I understand why it had to happen (kids show, couldn't even show watermelons getting cut in half)
But I wouldn't have pitied Ozai if he had just died.
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Post by akako on Jan 10, 2011 4:29:26 GMT -5
I don't pity Ozai, but I heartily agree he would have preferred death to Aang's punishment. The warrior heart would choose death in combat over being taken prisoner and humiliated (and in this case, stripped of your powers on top of that) any day. Too bad they won't listen on TV Tropes. This is pretty much the message I was trying to convey. A man of Ozai's status (not just a Fire Lord, but a warrior) would not tolerate being reduced to the level of the very people he subjugated and tyrannized over. Now not only has he been reduced to that level, he's beneath it. In his mind, he had the 'Divine Right' to rule by simple virtue of his Fire-Bending. Read up on the 'Divine Right of Kings'. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_right_of_kings and don't forget Azula's speech to Long Feng. No question where she got that view from. Now that it's gone, what does Ozai have left, really? Why should the Fire Nation want back a Fire Lord who lost both a war they had been fighting so long and his Fire bending?
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Post by isascott on Jul 5, 2023 18:39:10 GMT -5
Except, by the time of the comics, he pretty much became a martyr anyway. There's a hidden society named after him dedicated to him being broken out of prison and put back on the throne.
The idea that he'd instantly be harmless without bending feels like a passive-aggressive insult to non-benders like Sokka. The fire nation actually validates non-benders, and they are useful allies in their own right. What's to stop Ozai from adapting to his non-bender skills and still be a threat in that regard?
Aang never even meant for his ability to take away bending as a form of punishment, just something he thought would stop him from being a threat for good and allow Ozai to find personal growth, redemption, and rebuild his own life. If Ozai was successfully apprehended before Aang could get a chance, he wouldn't have done it then.
It is said that the dark side of spiritbending can destroy a human soul, implying that it can affect a human, who knows what the light side may look like when used on a human but when its used on spirits, it restores a spirit's internal balance and they go in peace. I think Aang shoulda learned this ability instead and used the light side on Ozai.
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