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Post by Horyo on Jul 24, 2008 19:06:28 GMT -5
Naw it's fine. You do bring up many good points about the mechanisms of the war. I haven't had such a thought-provoking debate about Avatar in a while.
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Post by avatarfav1 on Jul 25, 2008 10:04:45 GMT -5
Dragons duh
Remember firebending masters
Zuko said that his father or grandfather(i can't remember) But his great granfather started the war so they could use them
Airbenders rule
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Post by Horyo on Jul 25, 2008 15:59:06 GMT -5
^Wha? I thought it had to do with Sozin killing off the Dragons as a sport for a Title.
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Post by asian malaysian on Jul 25, 2008 16:23:42 GMT -5
^^ Sozin was said by Zuko to have started a tradition of hunting Dragons. I suppose it doesnt have to mean that he even killed most of them during his time. avatarfan- Its a nice idea but I dont think so.I had the impression Dragons were rare enough in Sozin's time that only important firbenders might have one and not enough for an invasion with the FN soldiers whose remains we saw at the Southern Air Temple.
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Post by zukose on Aug 1, 2008 13:35:03 GMT -5
the whole killing of the dragons was just plain stupid. why would you kill off the dragons.
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Post by godhunter on Aug 1, 2008 17:03:31 GMT -5
Going back to the original-ish topic of why they didn't come back to bury the dead, perhaps they did. You have to remember that there were only a few corpses found, the ones surround Gyatso's body. Besides the helmet that Katara found there really isn't anything else that suggests fire nation. The way that you guys took it was that the Fire Nation didn't come back to bury those soldiers, but perhaps they did come back. That would explain the lack of Fire Nation presence and even dead airbender presence. If one simply looks at the lack of bones and the like it wouldn't be shocking to say that the firebender's even burned the airbenders corpses as well. As for those around Gyatso's body it could be that Gyatso was in a room that was most easily accessible through flight and only the best firebenders with boosted power could have followed him up, which would have made it almost impossible to find those corpses later.
There is also the most probable solution that Bryke didn't think about that because it wouldn't have been as dramatic.
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Post by asian malaysian on Aug 1, 2008 19:13:44 GMT -5
^^ Excellent points, godhunter. Horyo's explanation that the other Air Nomads had escaped the air temple (perhapd to be captured and killed elsewhere?) is also plausible. In such a scenario, perhaps Gyatso stayed behind to give the impression that they were still there. I also agree that M&B did left the bodies there for dramatic effect for the series. Its just that its harder to explain why those bodies would be left there if they had returned. Firenation Commander: Have all the dead been removed? Firenation Captain: Yes sir. All except the ones around the Monk Gyatso. Firenation Commander: WHAT? I ordered you to remove all the bodies! Are you defying the will of Firelord Sozin?! Firenation Captain: No sir. But it was the will of Mike and Bryan. Firenation Commander: Oh! Why didnt you say so in the first place? In fact, add a few more dead Firenation soldiers. Kill them if you have to.
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Post by Turbo on Aug 1, 2008 20:09:47 GMT -5
I'm not sure if this was posted on the other page, for I did not read it. But it said somewhere on wikipedia.com that someone of the Air Nomads told the firelord how to get there. I'll see if I can get his name.
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Post by Turbo on Aug 1, 2008 20:35:11 GMT -5
^Yes! I know what you mean, and in the attack's flashback in The Avatar and the Firelord, it showed the WHOLE temple on fire. I don't get it.
I expected at least one of the Air Temples to be made into a Fire Nation city like Omashu was.
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Post by Horyo on Aug 2, 2008 11:48:32 GMT -5
cough
I think i said somewhere that the Temples were high up and underwent snow. Most of the Fire nation citizens aren't used to that and possibly whatever the Air Nomads ate; there's no strategic advantage to take over the temples as they were too high up/far away.
Besides, they never took over the South Pole.
Their main goal was chasing down the Avatar, not taking over the Air Nomads.
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Post by Horyo on Aug 2, 2008 14:07:41 GMT -5
They probably didn't know all the airbenders, so they just killed everyone just to be sure.
But because no one went all avatar glowy, Sozin knew the Avatar was still out there.
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Post by asian malaysian on Aug 2, 2008 17:20:39 GMT -5
^^ Interesting theory, Horyo. It would make their raids on the Southen and Nothern Water Tribes somewhat counter intuitive if they had nothing the Firenation wanted. I just dont see the waterbenders getting involved in the war if they werent attacked first.
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Post by Turbo on Aug 2, 2008 17:23:59 GMT -5
This probably isn't the right place for this, but I've been pondering this for awhile: If the Fire Nation didn't completely wipe out the Airbenders, and the war was still going on, do you think the Airbenders would have involved themselves in the war?
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Post by asian malaysian on Aug 2, 2008 17:31:09 GMT -5
Airbenders in themselves? Doubful. The Avatar? Definitely and some Airbenders would certainly have aided him.
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Post by Turbo on Aug 2, 2008 17:36:32 GMT -5
Most likely, but it would have been very debatable with them.
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