yiceman
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Post by yiceman on Nov 20, 2007 1:31:21 GMT -5
I think Azula is more intelligent than Iroh...she did in one afternoon what he couldn't in 600 days. Iroh's strength is wisdom and experience, imo. Which are things Azula coincidentally lacks.
So I'd say Azula is the smartest.
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Post by quazar on Nov 20, 2007 6:56:14 GMT -5
I think Iroh, with his experience and wisdom plus his natural intelligence, could take Azula in a battle of wits. Azula is very clever, but her arrogance will be her undoing. Sokka is also quite clever, he plans the invasion after all.
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Post by Zenjamin on Nov 20, 2007 10:06:30 GMT -5
I think Azula is more intelligent than Iroh...she did in one afternoon what he couldn't in 600 days. Iroh's strength is wisdom and experience, imo. Which are things Azula coincidentally lacks. So I'd say Azula is the smartest. "weve been presented with an extraordinary opportunity girls" azula was able to do what she was able to do because aang had gotten rid of long-feng, and sokka had vouched for the kioshi warriors. in fact, if one of those two things had not happened, and azula had tried to get close to the earth king, she would have been either turned away, or arrested. come to think of it, assuming she did not know that the the EK was naive, the Di-Lee power hungry, and the kioshi warriors raised in status because of sokka... that plan of azula's was kinda stupid... luck was the main factor there.
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Post by blak_cat on Nov 20, 2007 11:25:49 GMT -5
Azula is without a doubt, the most intellegent character I've seen on the show. She can come up with a plan in minutes and as soon as a road block comes, she can quickly alter her plan without a hitch. In "Crossroads" she organized an entire coup taking over Ba Sing Se and killing the Avatar at the same time. Withtin the plan she was also able to remove her unstable brother and uncle from the equation and even able to make Zuko her ally. She is also an amazing public speaker, instilling fear in the Dai Li, something that powers of the fear of others.
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Post by dragonflly on Nov 20, 2007 23:43:02 GMT -5
I think Azula is more intelligent than Iroh...she did in one afternoon what he couldn't in 600 days. Iroh's strength is wisdom and experience, imo. Which are things Azula coincidentally lacks. So I'd say Azula is the smartest. "weve been presented with an extraordinary opportunity girls" azula was able to do what she was able to do because aang had gotten rid of long-feng, and sokka had vouched for the kioshi warriors. in fact, if one of those two things had not happened, and azula had tried to get close to the earth king, she would have been either turned away, or arrested. come to think of it, assuming she did not know that the the EK was naive, the Di-Lee power hungry, and the kioshi warriors raised in status because of sokka... that plan of azula's was kinda stupid... luck was the main factor there. Thank you for saying that! It was most definately luck being on her side, moreso than the intelligence. @blak_cat: Let's remove Zuko from the intelligence factor. Azula has ALWAYS been able to mess with her brothers head. He was, at that time, a very unstable young man. All she had to do was say "father will love you", boom......instant Zuko pudding. Being pulled in two different directions, being handed what he's wanted for so long. That didn't take intelligence, she's done that kind of thing to him since she was tiny. She's his sister, she knows what buttons to push to get what she wants. Every sibling knows how to get the other/others to do stuff, it's how it is.
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yiceman
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Post by yiceman on Nov 21, 2007 17:26:37 GMT -5
What's the smartest thing Iroh's done? He's always shown great wisdom and experience, which is not the same as intelligence.
Azula has shown an amazing ability to adapt and take control of a situation. She's too young to have experience...she came up with everything as she went along. Sure, the pieces were in place that allowed Azula to take over, but SHE was the one that put them together and plotted them out. Heck, could any of us have done that? Played the two biggest factions in the kingdom against each other? Don't belittle her intelligence just because of Long Feng's existence. It was BECAUSE she's so smart that she was able to take advantage of it.
Look, I know Iroh's great, but he's never done anything that's amazingly smart. He's got a keen mind, but he's not a flippin' creative genius like Azula is.
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Post by budinsky on Mar 9, 2008 15:59:12 GMT -5
yea, its gotta be iroh.. hes the greatest firebender ever....
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Post by admirality on Mar 9, 2008 16:01:39 GMT -5
I think there's a differnce between wisdom and intelligence... Wisdom comes from experiance Iroh is wise and yes he's also intelligent too.... But I think on pure sharpness of mind I'd say Azula. I also think Long Feng, The mechanist, Sokka and Hakoda are very intelligent too.
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Post by .....:~~LordToph~~:...... on Apr 16, 2008 9:07:46 GMT -5
Iroh and Azula
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Post by attonbitus on Apr 16, 2008 10:21:45 GMT -5
While i'm a fan boy of Azula, Sokka's probably smarter than her. Lets look at their backgrounds. Azula has a huge grounding with the most renown tutors in the FN while Sokka grew up basically in a refugee camp with informal if any education.
Azula's shown her political and tactical acumen many times but considering her upbringing she was groomed into those roles. Sokka has shown the ability to learn quickly and has a scientific approach to planning.
He's helped the mechanist figure out the gas problem, the balloon's ability to elevate, initial plans for the submarine. So he's shown plenty of ingenuity even though he has no formal education in these areas.
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Post by lunar-tsunami on Apr 20, 2008 18:52:28 GMT -5
While i'm a fan boy of Azula, Sokka's probably smarter than her. Lets look at their backgrounds. Azula has a huge grounding with the most renown tutors in the FN while Sokka grew up basically in a refugee camp with informal if any education. Azula's shown her political and tactical acumen many times but considering her upbringing she was groomed into those roles. Sokka has shown the ability to learn quickly and has a scientific approach to planning. He's helped the mechanist figure out the gas problem, the balloon's ability to elevate, initial plans for the submarine. So he's shown plenty of ingenuity even though he has no formal education in these areas. I wouldn't say Sokka is entirely uneducated. His dad is pretty skilled mechanically, and I'm sure he was always showing his son how to do things. He probably spent a lot of time tinkering as a kid and learning how things work. Not to mention, it's boring in the South Pole...he has nothing to do but think. Plus, his lack of formal education might have actually allowed his creativity to blossom. No one has told him "That won't work because THIS is how we do things". But oh well, I'm not saying Sokka is necessarily the most intelligent, but I feel he definitely is in the top 5. (and yay, I'm Jun now! She's pretty intelligent as a character herself! Yay for crafty bounty hunters!)
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Post by phloof on Apr 25, 2008 14:19:04 GMT -5
Iroh, Zuko, Azula, Mai, and Sokka are probably the smartest characters on the show... But I'd have to put Iroh first. He's done a couple stupid things (example: tile in his sleeve) but he's epitome of wisdom other than that. I'd rank Azula second. Not many 14/15 year old girls could infiltrate the largest, most secure city in the world and take over the government practically singlehandedly. I love this video about Azula. It highlights all of her awesomeness. youtube.com/watch?v=T2mX40BMXrMAzula was a genius from childhood it seems, she was able to pick out two girls with as much potential as herself and could easily manipulate little Zuzu. Not to mention, Azula has mad battle skillz and it takes a lot of smarts to win battle after battle outnumbered. Not sure how I'd rank Mai, Zuko, and Sokka. They all have very different skills, both physically and mentally. Though all of them are very observant, which is a good trait they have in common.
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Post by Caladbolg777 on Apr 27, 2008 0:35:59 GMT -5
Hmm, most intelligent is a loaded question...
Intelliegence, in my opinion, can be divided up into an infinite number of ways just like someone or something being the best of something. When someone says "insert character here is the smartest" i think a more specific topic needs to be addressed.
Wisdom, ingenuity, creativity, strategy, and knowledge are all forms of intelligence. This is rough to catergorize someone into when they are the smartest.
For my answer I say the following.
The Best Strategist: Azula (aside from ba Sing Se, she had Toph-like sight when she found that one girl's weakness in the volleyball game) The wisest: Iroh (voice of reason in the show) The most creative: the Mechanist (mad scientist...of sorts) The most resourceful (or ingenius): Sokka The most knowledgable: Why, the Knowledge Spirit of course (after all he is Knowledge)
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Post by teabendingmaster on Apr 27, 2008 17:23:30 GMT -5
If we have made an IQ test for every character, I think Sokka would get the highest point. Azula's smartness is backed up by her evil and cunningness, and Iroh's is backed up by his IMMENSE knowledge. But Sokka's is pure intelligence. He didn't even have any education (at least a proper one). He is just using his gifted brain.
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Post by longshotsgirl58 on May 11, 2008 12:02:10 GMT -5
I think Azula is more intelligent than Iroh...she did in one afternoon what he couldn't in 600 days. Iroh's strength is wisdom and experience, imo. Which are things Azula coincidentally lacks. So I'd say Azula is the smartest. "weve been presented with an extraordinary opportunity girls" azula was able to do what she was able to do because aang had gotten rid of long-feng, and sokka had vouched for the kioshi warriors. in fact, if one of those two things had not happened, and azula had tried to get close to the earth king, she would have been either turned away, or arrested. come to think of it, assuming she did not know that the the EK was naive, the Di-Lee power hungry, and the kioshi warriors raised in status because of sokka... that plan of azula's was kinda stupid... luck was the main factor there. I agree here. Luck always seems to be with Azula no matter what she faces. It seems all the right actions have to fall exactly into certain places then she is able to make the best of it. In my eyes Iroh is the most intelligent. His years and wisdom seem to do the best. He always knows what to say and can get himself in and as well out of hard spots.
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