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Post by ƒelinoel on Jul 15, 2008 13:40:15 GMT -5
For the longest time I was for the theories that there was no higher version of airbending like bloodbending is to waterbending and metalbending is to earthbending, or I figured Aang already knows the higher version and he uses it we just never notice it because we have nothing to base it off of... Well it seems the latter is correct! In the King of Omashu episode, Aang uses it, Bumi throws a limb of meat at Aang suddenly, and Aang reacts by stopping it in midair and hovering it inbetween his hands... Antigravity! It was one of the ones thought to be higher versions of airbending, I was kind of hoping for soundbending though, oh well
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Post by zuko14 on Jul 15, 2008 14:31:28 GMT -5
I was wondering the same thing, we probobly wouldn't known it if there was, becuase he probably already knew it. And if there isin't yet Aang would have to learn it on his own or come up with one, because there aren't any more airbenders to teach any to him.....
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Post by ƒelinoel on Jul 15, 2008 14:37:15 GMT -5
I was wondering the same thing, we probobly wouldn't known it if there was, becuase he probably already knew it. But thats what I said in my post...
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Post by zuko14 on Jul 15, 2008 14:48:21 GMT -5
I know I really just wanted to say that he would have to come up with one if he didn't already have one as there arent any more airbenders.
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Post by ƒelinoel on Jul 15, 2008 15:01:46 GMT -5
I know I really just wanted to say that he would have to come up with one if he didn't already have one as there arent any more airbenders. Well he is already a master airbender
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Post by asian malaysian on Jul 15, 2008 16:50:37 GMT -5
I still say not Even accepting the definitinion of the term "master" as a achieving a high level of skill but not the highest level of skill, there should be even higher techniques of bending that Aang was meant to learn at the Eastern Airtemple before his training was interrupted by his fleeing. It would be great to see if airbenders can manipulate their form of the element the way water benders turn water into ice. Arguably, they may even be able to create lightning of their own by manipulating air currents. Think like Bumi.
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Post by ƒelinoel on Jul 15, 2008 17:16:07 GMT -5
I still say not Even accepting the definitinion of the term "master" as a achieving a high level of skill but not the highest level of skill, there should be even higher techniques of bending that Aang was meant to learn at the Eastern Airtemple before his training was interrupted by his fleeing. It would be great to see if airbenders can manipulate their form of the element the way water benders turn water into ice. Arguably, they may even be able to create lightning of their own by manipulating air currents. Think like Bumi. If you think that hard all benders could bend anything, but this is actual episode proof of it happening, and if I remember right, the Avatar spirit in The Guru episode antigravs Aang in a ball just like Aang and that meat
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Post by asian malaysian on Jul 15, 2008 19:39:10 GMT -5
^ The posibility I mentioned is tied to the air element so it is not a complete flight of fancy. Lightning is a possible higher form of airbending capability that Aang has not exhibited simply because he hasnt learned it yet. Will rewatch the scene but I dont recall being extraordinarily impress with the meat maneuver the first time I saw it. Since Bumi was expecting Aang to use it, Id say he must already have known about that maneuver the last time they met.
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Post by ƒelinoel on Jul 15, 2008 19:45:01 GMT -5
^ The posibility I mentioned is tied to the air element so it is not a complete flight of fancy. Lightning is a possible higher form of airbending capability that Aang has not exhibited simply because he hasnt learned it yet. Will rewatch the scene but I dont recall being extraordinarily impress with the meat maneuver the first time I saw it. Since Bumi was expecting Aang to use it, Id say he must already have known about that maneuver the last time they met. Bumi was expecting Aang to defend with airbending, not any specific airbending move, just to airbend
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Post by firenationkuzon on Jul 16, 2008 0:46:15 GMT -5
It seems like the three higher forms of waterbending, earthbending, and firebending use a unique or novel way of thinking about their respective bending arts.
Bloodbending requires one to realize that water exists in all life on the planet, metalbending requires one to realize that metal is just purified earth, and lightningbending requires one to realize that firebending is not fueled by rage or anger in the sense that lightning is a "purer" form of fire (ooh... curious to see what Zuko might do with lightning from his experiences in The Firebending Masters).
A higher level of airbending would probably come from some new or unusual train of thought...
Being able to fly might seem like the obvious one... but
Hmm I know some of this might sound crazy but in addition to soundbending as someone mentioned earlier, what if an airbender was able to manipulate the density or temperature of the air surrounding them so that they could deflect light around them, making them invisible or something?? For starters, mirages deflect light to create illusions due to temperature differences in the air. Maybe an airbender could somehow create some sort of illusion by manipulating the air.
Also just thought of another thing... it seems like it would be much harder than bloodbending, but technically it seems that if you could control air currents around another person's body powerfully enough, then you could "bend" that person using the air currents!
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Post by ƒelinoel on Jul 16, 2008 13:57:15 GMT -5
It seems like the three higher forms of waterbending, earthbending, and firebending use a unique or novel way of thinking about their respective bending arts. Bloodbending requires one to realize that water exists in all life on the planet, metalbending requires one to realize that metal is just purified earth, and lightningbending requires one to realize that firebending is not fueled by rage or anger in the sense that lightning is a "purer" form of fire (ooh... curious to see what Zuko might do with lightning from his experiences in The Firebending Masters). A higher level of airbending would probably come from some new or unusual train of thought... Being able to fly might seem like the obvious one... but Hmm I know some of this might sound crazy but in addition to soundbending as someone mentioned earlier, what if an airbender was able to manipulate the density or temperature of the air surrounding them so that they could deflect light around them, making them invisible or something?? For starters, mirages deflect light to create illusions due to temperature differences in the air. Maybe an airbender could somehow create some sort of illusion by manipulating the air. Also just thought of another thing... it seems like it would be much harder than bloodbending, but technically it seems that if you could control air currents around another person's body powerfully enough, then you could "bend" that person using the air currents! So you are saying lightningbending is a normal thing for firebenders?
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Post by asian malaysian on Jul 16, 2008 17:29:03 GMT -5
^ Sounds to me like he's just paraphrasing Iroh as far as lightning is concerned.
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Post by firenationkuzon on Jul 16, 2008 17:47:13 GMT -5
I guess I'm just saying that although any firebender is intrinsically capable of firebending (physically possible for them to do so) it needs a high level of skill and a certain mindset to be able to do it. I think that the same might go for blood and metal bending, that any bender is capable of doing it. It's just that some things made it easier for people like Katara (who's really powerful) and Toph (who can more easily visualize the impurities in metal) to learn them.
Iroh did sort of imply that Zuko would be able to lightningbend after he took care of his inner turmoil, and so in a way, yes lightningbending is "normal" for firebenders in that they are all physcially able to do it... the question is whether they have the skill and the mind to do it.
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Post by asian malaysian on Jul 16, 2008 19:28:58 GMT -5
^ I love the way that Zuko deflected lighnting in DOBS (Pt2). It would be great if he used actual lighning bending in the final episodes.
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Post by ƒelinoel on Jul 16, 2008 19:56:11 GMT -5
I guess I'm just saying that although any firebender is intrinsically capable of firebending (physically possible for them to do so) it needs a high level of skill and a certain mindset to be able to do it. I think that the same might go for blood and metal bending, that any bender is capable of doing it. It's just that some things made it easier for people like Katara (who's really powerful) and Toph (who can more easily visualize the impurities in metal) to learn them. Iroh did sort of imply that Zuko would be able to lightningbend after he took care of his inner turmoil, and so in a way, yes lightningbending is "normal" for firebenders in that they are all physcially able to do it... the question is whether they have the skill and the mind to do it. So you are saying all firebenders can not lightningbend
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