Lisa31468
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Post by Lisa31468 on Mar 27, 2008 21:18:18 GMT -5
Wow, I can't believe how many people don't care for Mai. Zutarians are definitely hacked about Maiko in S3!
I voted Long Feng. Yeah, he was 'never even a player' but he still killed off Jet. Ack.
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Post by zukofan694 on Jun 14, 2008 14:11:36 GMT -5
I voted Katara. I find her incredably annoying... She is too perfect and crys way to much... Half the time she has no reason to cry, and come on the girl does everything right... And her attitude is so annoying... I found it hillarious when she TRIED to be all bad Equus asinus in the western air temple... Because come on, she wouldn't kill anyone! I understand the hate for Zuko, he got kinda annoying in the third season to me... But I loved him again during DoBS. I don't understand the hate for Mai though... Come on people! Mai is awesome! I'm pretty sure most of the people casted there vote for Mai before TBR though... Anyway... after Katara, it would deffanatly be Long Feng... I mean come on... I can't be the only one who cried when Jet died! By the way... who the hell voted for Momo? What did the little guy ever do to you?
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Post by zukofan694 on Jun 14, 2008 14:14:42 GMT -5
And her attitude is so annoying... I found it hillarious when she TRIED to be all bad Equus asinus in the western air temple... Because come on, she wouldn't kill anyone! Okay, before you ask... that is suppost to say When she tried to be all bad Equus asinus in the Western Air Temple... I have know idea how I typed it that wrong...
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Post by nymphadora on Jun 14, 2008 17:40:39 GMT -5
I find it funny that someone has so much hatred for Appa that they picked him over any other character. XD But different characters bother me at certain times. It depends on the episode. Zukosfan - I don't really know what you mean when you say you typed it wrong. The Equus asinus thing? That just gets changed when you swear.
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Post by zukofan694 on Jun 14, 2008 18:00:20 GMT -5
I find it funny that someone has so much hatred for Appa that they picked him over any other character. XD But different characters bother me at certain times. It depends on the episode. Zukosfan - I don't really know what you mean when you say you typed it wrong. The Equus asinus thing? That just gets changed when you swear. Yeah, sorry.. well I was trying to say bad @$$ But, I didn't know they change swears... sorry.
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Post by nymphadora on Jun 14, 2008 21:17:12 GMT -5
You don't have to apologize. I didn't understand that for the longest time. I thought when people said Equus asinus they were trying to be funny. xD
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Post by dragonflly on Jun 14, 2008 23:06:30 GMT -5
^^I've put in a swear here and there, and sometimes the word that replaces it is just so funny. It's a good idea, I guess, to change swear words, but sometimes ya really just gotta let it rip!!
And my least favorite has been and will remain Mai. Although Azula and Ozai make it a very hard competition for that top spot. Zhao and Jet rank quite high as well.
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Post by Scarlett Ember on Jun 15, 2008 0:03:23 GMT -5
Mai always has and always will be my least favorite. Even before the whole Maiko thing, I couldn't stand her. She was so "blah" and emo. She had like no character. She had a couple funny lines, but other than that she was just boring and lame. Even though lately her fight scenes have become kind of cool, I have already pegged her as my least favorite character and already have so much dislike for her it's hard to gain any respect for her.
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inuyatta
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Post by inuyatta on Jun 16, 2008 22:37:29 GMT -5
I'd have to say Mai is still my least favorite character even after TBR. She really hasn't grown much in this entire show.
Who is Mai in S2? The bored, whiny girl who throws things, doesn't care about her family (even though they care for her) or much of anything really, except Zuko.
Who is Mai in S3? The bored, whiny, and hungry girl who throws things, who doesn't care about her family, who only cares about Zuko--so much that she'd throw away all her perks just to save the guy who dumped her.
Not the uncle who is being held hostage on the same gondola and was furious with Zuko on her behalf--and who made sure she got to say her piece before he would have had Zuko hauled off to the capitol.
Nope. She gave it all to save her ex boyfriend. Fantastic. I suppose it is better than her being the vindictive ex.
I can't say I see Mai's sacrifice as being as epic as everyone makes it out to be--she got fed up with Azula and ran to Zuko's defense.
Truthfully, her 'sacrifice' pales in comparison to Ty Lee, who gave away everything Mai did to save her best friend's life--despite being absolutely terrified of Azula.
I'm really disappointed with the way things were handled this entire season. I was hoping to like all the secondary characters, and instead, I get very, very little development.
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Post by Scarlett Ember on Jun 16, 2008 23:05:48 GMT -5
She gave it all to save her ex boyfriend. Fantastic. I suppose it is better than her being the vindictive ex. That would be more interesting of a character, but I wouldn't expect Mai to be that kind of person. She's got little passion, and seeing as she held on to her crush on Zuko from when they were really little, I wouldn't see her letting it go even after he dumped her through a note and left. Which is just more proof that her character hasn't developed or changed AT ALL, like you said.
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Ana
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Post by Ana on Jun 17, 2008 13:33:25 GMT -5
Zhao and Jet rank quite high as well. Zhao ranks high on my list as well. He never really interested me and now that we have Azula he just seems... lame. The bored, whiny girl who throws things, doesn't care about her family (even though they care for her) Her family cared for Tom-Tom. Actually, that brings up the subject of some of my least favorite characters: Mai's parents. Child bias aside, they ruled Omashu badly and let Azula step all over them. Plus, their characters designs annoyed me. I dunno. The sacrifices of Mai and Ty Lee seem the same to me. They both let go of their fear of Azula/risked everything to save someone they cared about. Infact, I'd say that's why Mai has changed. Before she just complained but now she actually stands up for herself. Though I won't say more because it's silly to defend a character in the least favorite character thread.
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Post by strife17 on Jun 17, 2008 19:50:17 GMT -5
I never liked Jet. He was all "Look at me. I'm Jet. I'm awesome." but even so he really didn't deserve to die.
down with Zhao and Long Feng I say. I guess every season needs some middle aged guy giving the gAang some more crap to deal with.
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inuyatta
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Post by inuyatta on Jun 17, 2008 21:07:28 GMT -5
And they cared for Mai too. I did not see anything in the show that said otherwise, so I'm not going into it.
They were stereotypically lacking spine when Azula came to town, I'll grant you that, but then that's to be expected because it's freakin' Azula. You don't backtalk the Princess if you are of a lower station, and you sure as hell don't backtalk to her because she will not hesitate to make you extra crispy.
Mai and Ty Lee's sacrifices are almost the same--Mai was fed up with Azula and chose Zuko, as we knew she would. Ty Lee was and is still absolutely terrified by Azula, but she chose to save Mai's life despite her fear. Ty Lee comes off as just a tad braver, though the amount sacrificed is still the same.
Other characters I'm not fond of-- Zhao. I mean, his voice actor was excellent--but when he can get taken down by Zuko back in Season 1? Kinda hard to take him as a serious bad guy. Azula blew him outta the water (so to speak).
Not too crazy about Jet either, which is why it didn't affect me much when Jet died--but at least I had gone from disliking him to having a grudging respect, albeit a small one when he passed.
Truthfully, my problem is more with the way a lot of the characters have been written rather than the characters themselves. The ones I listed are the only ones who didn't seem to have a decent base to start with.
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Post by Ana on Jun 18, 2008 11:14:55 GMT -5
And they cared for Mai too. I did not see anything in the show that said otherwise, so I'm not going into it. "The Beach"? Seriously though, her Mom was the only one who said anything to her and it involved telling her how to feel. Granted, it was "be happy" but even that was because perks not because, you know, her daughter should be happy. Eh, just because Ty Lee was less predicable doesn’t mean she’s the braver one. Ty Lee did what she did in a split-second decision to save a friend but Mai did what she did with a bit of planning to save her boyfriend. Ty Lee did have to overcome more fear but Mai had to overcome fear too. You know, hence "I love Zuko more than I fear you." Honestly, I think one's (I meant that in general terms -sorry ) opinion on whose sacrifice was greater depends on which character one likes better. I have to agree with this. Jet never interested me very much and it didn’t affect me very much when he died. I think the idea of Jet was good (like he was always in the grey and interacted with both Aang and Zuko) but it was his personality that turned me off.
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inuyatta
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Post by inuyatta on Jun 18, 2008 12:34:13 GMT -5
'The Beach' counts not for much, quite honestly. You can't show me one thing and tell me it's something else. The only thing I've ever seen Mai's mom do is tell her she should be happy--how is that un-motherly? They have just about everything at their fingertips as far as materialistic needs goes--that should make most folks happy. Truthfully, the only canonical thing shown to be wrong with Mai's mother is that she doesn't quite understand Mai and she's materialistic.
But really, I don't see how anything she said was any worse than most mother's telling their spoiled teens to be grateful for what they have.
No, my judgement on Ty Lee being braver is not because I like her more. I think Ty Lee is braver because it seems like it takes more for a person to rebel against someone they fear rather than it does for someone who rebels out of anger and exasperation. I guess we can chalk it up to difference of opinon, but please don't assume that just because I don't care much for Mai, that I hold her to a different standard. Ty Lee is another character the creators could have really gone more in depth to and fleshed out, yet they did not. Ty Lee's personality is more palatable, sure--but deeper? No.
I think what turned me off most about Jet was the fact that he was just so cocky--that and I don't care for revenge-obsessed characters pretending to be heroes. He was ruthless, arrogant and self-righteous when we first met him--not a good base to start with, for me. And poor Longshot/Smellerbee, for having to put up with his stubborn attitude. Just...ugh, you cannot be a hero if you don't even take the people around you into consideration. Heroes aren't supposed to treat innocents as though they were expendable!
I guess his redemptive death was able to put me back to neutral with him--but again, the impact was barely felt by me, because the majority of the time, he was an obsessive, self-righteous prick. =p
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