Zenjamin
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Post by Zenjamin on Dec 14, 2007 22:26:56 GMT -5
Hmm, but actually, Zen, having Iroh there makes Zuko's accepance more likely, since he could smooth things over, explain stuff... and yet know when to step back and make Zuko tread the hard path of having to prove himself. I am so looking forward to this dialogue. XD ... but again. WHY? why would the gaang accept/want zuko around when they have Iroh? what would zuko bring to the table that Iroh couldnt... he could tell them what happened in the war meenting, but that would take about 30 seconds... If Iroh showed up, zuko would go and look for mommy IMO, hes not need with Iroh around, and so soon after zuko joins the group, hes not wanted either. i would be inclined to agree if "the FB masters" was in 315 or even 314... but i just dont think why anyone would want zuko there if they have Iroh. Im not saying zuko wouldnt be a good friend to aang (it now looks like he actually will be giving aang girl advice now that he knows how aang feels about him) . but thats is going to have to build... if they have Iroh, the only reason for zuko to stay would be if aang was all, "OMG! don leave, UR my BFF!"
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Post by KrystalFruit22 on Dec 14, 2007 22:28:28 GMT -5
Yeah...but the thing is, the gaang doesn't know what happened to Iroh or where he is. For all they know he could be dead, or still in prison, and they don't have all that much time left till Sozin's comet comes.
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Post by chaobender482 on Dec 14, 2007 22:30:41 GMT -5
I can understand why Nick is going to hold Avatar here in the US Much Longer, knowing SpongBob is going to make Avatar fans be turned away from watching the show, as well as need more money just to get the episodes to air.
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Post by rocio on Dec 14, 2007 22:31:27 GMT -5
^ xD i was going to post that, but i thought i wasn't allowed too. [shipping] Like i suspected, Aang and Katara didn't talk about the kiss, so i'm guessing they are going to drag this out until the final episode Oh well, Katara threatening to kill Zuko for Aang was a nice Kataang moment Right? Y/N/M [/shipping] Anyway, since 313 is "The Firebending Masters" does that mean Iroh's going to help Zuko train Aang in firebending? mmmmmmmmmmm.........too can be very Zutara XD Considering that Katara is the less trusting since that treason in tha catacombs, her motives for to hate him are very personal. Since she trust him and then he betrayed... I would like to see how she will trust him again.. And poor Toph.
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Post by The Blue Chibi on Dec 14, 2007 22:32:39 GMT -5
Silly Zen ~ because Iroh tells them, "Accept my nephew." ;D You know he would. And I know you're agitating for a debate, and I'm not going to be able to give you one ~ nursing the migraine comes first. They'll trust Iroh, and yeah, Aang will probably feel trust for Zuko on some level. Who knows ~ the conveniently placed deus ex machina of Roku could just as well pop up and have a thing or two to tell Aang. XD But Zuko will still need to prove himself. nandi, as the blue chibi has a hurt head, care to take his place? *puts stupid little pink symbol back in profile* But it clashes with my sig & av. tg, don't argue with the Disciple of Iroh. He's got a one-track mind. Well, okay ~ two-track. (But WHY!!?)
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Post by pharaoh on Dec 14, 2007 22:33:26 GMT -5
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Post by tg on Dec 14, 2007 22:34:00 GMT -5
Hmm, but actually, Zen, having Iroh there makes Zuko's accepance more likely, since he could smooth things over, explain stuff... and yet know when to step back and make Zuko tread the hard path of having to prove himself. I am so looking forward to this dialogue. XD ... but again. WHY? why would the gaang accept/want zuko around when they have Iroh? what would zuko bring to the table that Iroh couldnt... he could tell them what happened in the war meenting, but that would take about 30 seconds... If Iroh showed up, zuko would go and look for mommy IMO, hes not need with Iroh around, and so soon after zuko joins the group, hes not wanted either. i would be inclined to agree if "the FB masters" was in 315 or even 314... but i just dont think why anyone would want zuko there if they have Iroh. Im not saying zuko wouldnt be a good friend to aang (it now looks like he actually will be giving aang girl advice now that he knows how aang feels about him) . but thats is going to have to build... if they have Iroh, the only reason for zuko to stay would be if aang was all, "OMG! don leave, UR my BFF!" It's to complete the Avatar group circle. Can you imagine... Earth (Toph), Fire (Iroh), Water (Katara), and Air (Aang) in the Avatar opening? O.o Iroh is strong and young at heart but I think seeing Zuko trying to interact with people more his age will help build his character more. Azula and her group is only stinting his growth. It'll also help him with his firebending among peers. Iroh has helped him as far as he could. It's up to Zuko to also stand on his own two feet.
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Zenjamin
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Post by Zenjamin on Dec 14, 2007 22:34:56 GMT -5
Silly Zen ~ because Iroh tells them, "Accept my nephew." ;D You know he would. And I know you're agitating for a debate, and I'm not going to be able to give you one ~ nursing the migraine comes first. They'll trust Iroh, and yeah, Aang will probably feel trust for Zuko on some level. Who knows ~ the conveniently placed deus ex machina of Roku could just as well pop up and have a thing or two to tell Aang. XD But Zuko will still need to prove himself. but WHY?!?! WHY would Iroh feel the need to have Zuko in the gaang? WHY would Zuko even be in the gaang when he knows he would be useless and could better serve time looking for his mother? nandi, as the blue chibi has a hurt head, care to take his place?
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Post by stinkypinky on Dec 14, 2007 22:35:17 GMT -5
That looks so wrong! [/has watched too many Lifetime movies and SVU]
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Post by mindbender18 on Dec 14, 2007 22:35:44 GMT -5
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Post by KrystalFruit22 on Dec 14, 2007 22:36:02 GMT -5
Hold on...why poor Toph? Sorry, I'm not quite filled in on all the latest spoilers
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Post by tg on Dec 14, 2007 22:37:36 GMT -5
but WHY?!?! WHY would Iroh feel the need to have Zuko in the gaang? WHY would Zuko even be in the gaang when he knows he would be useless and could better serve time looking for his mother? Because.. Iroh knows best for his nephew. He'll still look after him and everything. He just wants his nephew to be with people who share his views. And because...Zuko isn't useless. He'll be looking for his mother but he won't be useless. Wow. He really gave her quite a scare, eh?
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Zenjamin
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Post by Zenjamin on Dec 14, 2007 22:38:28 GMT -5
lol mindbender cannon Zutaar's gettne TOLD all over the place.
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Post by rocio on Dec 14, 2007 22:38:57 GMT -5
yea If it starts all lovey lovey I would hate it...Its better that way. More drama. You can see how that feelings obviously will change to trust. and in a interesting way that gives information a better evolution in favor of the plot. I don't want what they do with maiko ...... Really bad...
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Zenjamin
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Post by Zenjamin on Dec 14, 2007 22:40:40 GMT -5
Because.. Iroh knows best for his nephew. He'll still look after him and everything. He just wants his nephew to be with people who share his views. And because...Zuko isn't useless. He'll be looking for his mother but he won't be useless. ... ok care to explain HOW he wouldnt be useless with Iroh around? Or WHY Iroh would thik that it would be better for zuko to be with a group of people who currently hate him instead of finding his mother?
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