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Post by Grimmjow of the Funk on Apr 9, 2008 23:19:51 GMT -5
what the f**k i just saw this i had to laugh at the stupidity of the people. eight girls invited over anther girl then trapped her in a house and beat the ever loving crap out of her for 30 minutes. then they posted a video of it on youtube. the victim got a concussion and now the girls who did it have been arrested and their names and information released to the public i think it serves them right. should the information have been released? here is the link www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU051bJG8j8&feature=bz301 |
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Post by Atmos on Apr 10, 2008 8:04:29 GMT -5
Well considering the vid's not there anymore, I have a hunch youtube doesn't want to spread anymore than it's already have. Here's an article I just pulled out, though this doesn't give too much detail.
(Can anyone find a better article?) This is all it says below ----------- Eight American teenagers in Florida are under arrest for brutally beating up a girl to make a video for the popular Website YouTube.
Police in Lakeland say the victim was beaten up by six girls when she arrived at her friend’s home.
Two boys stood outside and kept a lookout.
The assaulters videotaped it and threatened to post it on the Internet.
The badly-bruised girl was taken to the hospital with a concussion and damage to her left eye and ear.
The victim's father said the girls wanted to create a video that would be popular on the YouTube.
The mother of one of the arrested girls says that the victim provoked the attack by threatening and insulting the girls on their MySpace pages.I'm humored by the fact that the mother mentioned above attempted to justify the attack with blog-flaming. There are just some things I have a really hard time to put in words my reaction. All I can say for now is that in cases like these that make me glad stupid people exist....makes it much more easier to catch them (since you can't always link stupidity with morality). I suppose such psychology is linked with the scenario of Chi Wong - a young man recently aressted for announcing to commit acts similiar to the Virginia Tech Massacre.Some people who desperately seek attention do so by commiting crime and acts of violence, considering that in society, violence tends to be one of the things that grab our attention most. |
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Post by girlunderglass on Apr 10, 2008 12:31:08 GMT -5
I think this is just horrifying. So what if the girl made fun of them on MySpace? Did that give them a right to go over her house and beat her to a point that she now has lost her hearing in one ear and is suffering loss of vision in on of her eyes? I'm glad these girls have been arrested. It serves them right. At the cost of saving their online reputation, they brutally beat the snot out of another person.
What really gets me is that one of the girls mother's showed up on Tv saying "My daughter didn't do anything. She was just standing there."
And the host of the show put her rightfully in place. "Did she call 911? Did she do anything to stop it? She's and accessory to the crime."
Where do people get their mentality from? The girl is guilty simply for being there. She went over to the victims house with the intent or at least knowledge that they were going to beat the stuffing out of this girl.
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Post by Grimmjow of the Funk on Apr 10, 2008 12:32:03 GMT -5
i think they should be released to the public then it would be more fun.
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Post by girlunderglass on Apr 10, 2008 13:07:56 GMT -5
Who should be released to the public? The videos or the girls?
If you mean the mother in the interview, I'm certain she was on Fox or CNN. Just don;t ask me to remember which one and who interviewed her.
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Post by nymphadora on Apr 10, 2008 17:58:48 GMT -5
I can't imagine beating someone up or even wanting too. When kids at school are talking all tough about their cool fights, I'm at a loss for words. How could you just start hitting someone and trying to hurt them? And girls that get it fights at school and leave chunks of pulled out hair on the ground. Why bother? I just feel so bad for the helpless people laying there getting beat to a pulp. Like the old guy in Jet. Jet is about to kick him in the face before Sokka stops him. I know sometimes in very severe situations people will snap and start hurting someone, but stupid teenage girls? They just want to be 'popular.' This whole story just gives me a terrible feeling in my stomach.
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Post by truwaterbender on Apr 10, 2008 18:44:57 GMT -5
Geez, this is horrible. This is aminly for popularity, that's wrong. There's a group of girls who beat up another girl to a pulp, so they could be popular. Sure it's great to be popular, but that's seroiuly taking it too far. Currently in health e are going through a bullying/harassment unit and this is the exact thing we are trying to prevent in our school. THis is really seroius, and the sad thing is, it's getting bigger and bigger. Maybe I should print this thread for health.
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Post by lunar-tsunami on Apr 10, 2008 18:48:03 GMT -5
I don't have a link handy, but I read about this on the news and I found it pretty sickening that the girls didn't even think it was a big deal when they were arrested. They were saying "Oh, will I be let out on time for cheerleading practice tomorrow?" They partially deafened and blinded that girl! That must have been some significant brain trauma to get that sort of damage. I hope jail scares the crap out of them so they realize how horrible it is to gang up on someone and hurt them that badly over some petty MySpace issue. Whatever happened to just TPing their house? If someone says you're fat or ugly or something...that doesn't justify permanently impairing them for the rest of their life!!!
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Post by Grimmjow of the Funk on Apr 11, 2008 0:23:37 GMT -5
the girls it would just shame them even more if they were released to the public i mean there information is already but they are in holding i think. i know they were arrested.
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Post by attonbitus on Apr 11, 2008 8:24:11 GMT -5
This will be an interesting case study if they're white. This "gang beating" if you will is a common crime among street gangs and have lot of precedents for punishment. I bring this up mostly because there was another case called the "Barbie Bandits" where two teenage good looking white girls were robbing banks got significantly less severe sentences than black males that committed the same crime.
Also I do find it ironic and sad that they would post "look outs" to make sure they weren't caught but then decided to put it on youtube.
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Post by girlunderglass on Apr 11, 2008 8:31:36 GMT -5
I look at it this way- no person has the right (lawfully or morally) to harm another individual. It's not a single person's right to be allowed to decide that another human being deserves physically painful punishment. Bullying is not acceptable in any form.
And I'll even go a step further- which will likely lead me to being somewhat off topic...
What do you think war is? One country bullying another because they simply can not agree. Yet during war time, it's common (although avoided) that innocent civilians get killed as well- by the very hands that release a weapon, whether it be a bomb, a gun, a missile or bio warfare- it's still bullying, just on a much grander scale.
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Post by Horyo on Apr 11, 2008 15:07:28 GMT -5
youtube.com/watch?v=a-YDgAG6tCMDid you hear them? "Don't hit the shelf, don't hit the shelf!" The grandmother of that girl was fully for their punishment (the 8). "Juvenile Crime." "Mature Crime." How are the 17-18 year olds going to get a lilghter sentence? "What they're charging them with does not fit the crime...it's a misdemeanor." "Permanent disfigurement, she needs permanent disfigurement." Oh so now you need proof to show that someone kidnapped, beaten up, and knocked unconscious, to show that it's more than just a misdemeanor. She could have died. It was all planned out/premeditated, how can that not be charged as an adult crime? The fallacy in her argument, and I'm afraid some sobby pitiful jury people might overlook poor Victoria just to be 'soft on these young girls." youtube.com/watch?v=EsDqhU2n8MA&feature=relatedI support the host 
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Post by Zenjamin on Apr 11, 2008 16:40:20 GMT -5
i just saw this i had to laugh at the stupidity of the people. i think they should be released to the public then it would be more fun. you laughed, and you think this is "fun" its like you arent morally disgusted by this, but only amused that they were stupid enough to film it. this part of the post will likely get deleted by a mod, but it has to be said. I think your a pretty fracked up individual. I may be wrong, but thats what I get from your reaction. |
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Post by Gran Gran on Apr 11, 2008 20:02:33 GMT -5
There are many ways to react to over the top events like that, even laughter. and it's not wrong...maybe weird to others...however, it really does not warrant a personal attack in this manner...
bring me good arguments...
There are many levels to this incident. peel it away like the layers of an onion. There is an aspect of hilarity when criminal acts are taped by the perpetrators. This falls under the worlds dumbest criminals. I mean, did they expect it to stay un-noticed, on a place like youtube?! And since that was not their intention anyhow...what did they expect to come from it anyhow?
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Post by girlunderglass on Apr 12, 2008 9:19:03 GMT -5
That's the problem GranGran- They had it all planned out and thought about how great it would be to exact their revenge... but they did not think about the consequences at all.
So this leads me to think the equation goes something like this:
Execute, videotape and post act of vengeance = Popularity and coolness in a corner of cyberspace
Commit a crime, get arrest = Criminal Record
Add it together and the girls still get massive popularity- Which is ultimately what they were planning if they were taping it to post.
The message from the media is clearly misleading to young impressionable minds. It's become a matter of "Do something bad and you will reap the rewards".
Look at the prostitute caught sleeping with Elliot Spitzer. Here you have a high paid hooker that was busted sleeping with the governor of NY for money, but heck- she's being handed recording deals, people wanting write her book for money and movie offers. Is the general public and media insane? Prostitution is illegal in this country- why is she being glorified when she should have been arrested?
So with examples like that, what's to stop people like these young girls from doing something so disturbing when you know somehow, someway they will be rewarded?
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