tara22
Warrior Sokka
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Post by tara22 on Feb 4, 2007 12:40:48 GMT -5
If she had healed his scar, maybe Zuko would have made a different choice, thereby meaning Aang never got shot in the first place. O.o WooooOOOOoooOOOo I get what you're saying. Zuko was shocked to see Iroh with Aang but didn't lash out until Aang said something (Aang did try and get his goat by saying 'saving your butt, that's what)' The reason Iroh told Aang and Katara to leave and that they'd catch up was so he could talk to Zuko because he could see how upset he was. Had Katara healed Zuko before Aang and Iroh came, Zuko may have been in a different mindset when they arrived and they could have ended up leaving with Katara and Aang and never run into Azula. On topic, the whole scene was for dramatic purposes and to get people talking. It worked quite well.
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Post by Everwen45 on Feb 4, 2007 16:54:05 GMT -5
;)I'm guessing they'll have to actually mention the specifics of what happened to Aang after Azula shot him down with the lightning. It was apparent he suffered a mortal wound, but not apparent that he actually succumbed - my impression was that Aang was at death's door and brought back from the brink, but that he didn't actually "cross over," so to speak. I had guessed that the reason they had such an explicit explanation of death in the Avatar State back in 201 was so we would have a grasp of just how high the stakes were should Aang *not* be brought back from the brink (because based on previous knowledge it would be assumed he'd just be reincarnated). My impression when Katara healed Aang was that she brought both him as an individual and the Avatar State as a whole back from death's door. But we'll have to see what the official explanation is... My point exactly, he was one step closer to death, but he wasn't dead. That's entirely true, even the Nick site says so. I don't think mastering the Avatar State it's that easy, besides, the only reason Aang was willing to open the 7th chakra was because he and Katara were dangerously outnumbered, he didn't have much of a choice. Now, you're gonna tell me "he still doesn't have any choice", which it's true, but knowing how much Aang loves Katara, and how much he depends on her, I don't think he will go "Bibidi babidi boo, I opened the last chakra!" in Book 3. The Avatar State it's still a very serious issue that I don't believe it will be resolved so quickly and so easily, especially after he almost "reached the light". We can keep arguing this endlessly, because there's still two months until Book 3 comes. We got out of topic so much.
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aquavi
Casual Zuko
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Post by aquavi on Feb 4, 2007 17:09:10 GMT -5
I don't think mastering the Avatar State it's that easy, besides, the only reason Aang was willing to open the 7th chakra was because he and Katara were dangerously outnumbered, he didn't have much of a choice. Now, you're gonna tell me "he still doesn't have any choice", which it's true, but knowing how much Aang loves Katara, and how much he depends on her, I don't think he will go "Bibidi babidi boo, I opened the last chakra!" in Book 3. The Avatar State it's still a very serious issue that I don't believe it will be resolved so quickly and so easily, especially after he almost "reached the light". We can keep arguing this endlessly, because there's still two months until Book 3 comes. We got out of topic so much. Still OT, but you should remember the Guru's words before Aang left him. "If you leave now, you won't be able to go into the Avatar State at all!" He could have meant that without his help Aang couldn't do it, but since in the cave Aang does, more or less, the Guru's words could have prophetic instead. :cough: Katara was just checking the damage. Yep.
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yiceman
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Post by yiceman on Feb 4, 2007 17:17:21 GMT -5
You're right, Katara didn't know if the water would work. That just makes the question hypothetical. Had she been able to heal it, would Zuko have made his choice the way he did?
I don't think so. A lot of folks think that Zuko's two choices at the end were A) Join Azula or B) join the gAang, but think about it: He doesn't know anything about them. The thought of joining them never crossed his mind. So he had to chose between Azula and living as a refugee with the constant fear of being imprisoned as a traitor his entire life, if they don't just execute him.
Had she healed his scar, had she shown him an act of unmatched generosity from someone who by all rights should hate him, the idea of seeking them for help might have become an option. Iroh would certainly have approved, and likely convinced him it was right.
(Though I am kind of glad this didn't happen, otherwise the end of season 2 wouldn't have been as shocking as it was)
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Post by waterfire (I am back!!!) on Feb 4, 2007 17:23:59 GMT -5
You have a good point there,But I be happy IF Katara did heal Zuko's scar.
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Post by bluespiritzuko on Feb 20, 2007 11:21:39 GMT -5
It would of healed it....and zuko and katara were bonding in the cave it was thrown in there to make zutarians happy they will elaborate on what happend in the cave i think...
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Post by LightBender on Feb 20, 2007 14:44:33 GMT -5
If Zuko's scar had gotten healed, he would have probably made a different decision than he did. I think so, at least. I think that Zuko's decisions are partially Aang's fault, but just my opinion.
I think she was just examining it. You know, seeing the full extent of the damage.
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Post by bluespiritzuko on Feb 20, 2007 14:52:55 GMT -5
ITS ALL AANG'S FALT! you are so right if Aang hadn't have busted in at the wrong time he would not have listend to Azula. (Don't think i'm a Aang hater he just came in at the wrong time just like Kataangers and Sokka busting in in the Earthking)
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Post by Amira on Feb 20, 2007 16:26:55 GMT -5
ITS ALL AANG'S FALT! you are so right if Aang hadn't have busted in at the wrong time he would not have listend to Azula. (Don't think i'm a Aang hater he just came in at the wrong time just like Kataangers and Sokka busting in in the Earthking) It is not all Aang's fault. Healing Zuko's scar would've been incredibly lame and Katara used it later on for a more noble purpose. If Aang had needed later on and Katara wasted it just to give Zuko some plastic surgery, then I would've been upset.
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Post by waterfire (I am back!!!) on Feb 20, 2007 16:29:30 GMT -5
Why does the creaters do these things to us? Oh we'll get our hopes in season three for either Kataang or Zutara.
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aquavi
Casual Zuko
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Post by aquavi on Feb 20, 2007 16:30:26 GMT -5
Why does the creaters do these things to us?. Because if they didn't the series would suck.
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Post by bluespiritzuko on Feb 20, 2007 16:58:30 GMT -5
If the scar was healed than Aang wouldn't have gotten the burn because zuko would not have goind azula and everything would have worked out.
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Post by Amira on Feb 20, 2007 17:34:30 GMT -5
If the scar was healed than Aang wouldn't have gotten the burn because zuko would not have goind azula and everything would have worked out. The scar might have been gone, but Zuko still would've sought his father's attention and approval. So if the scar had been healed I don't see him changing the decision because the underlying wish for acceptance by his father is still there. So no, I think Aang still would've been injured. A face change for Zuko wouldn't have removed the underlying issues.
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Post by night on Feb 20, 2007 17:38:44 GMT -5
If the scar got healed, not only would Zuko look incredibly lame now, but the Spirit Oasis water would've been wasted on a minor thing of little importance. If Katara wasted it there, she would have been feeling incredibly guilty at the moment, because we don't know if regular water could've gotten the job done.
But really, the writers and creators wrote the episode like that for a reason. We'll just have to wait until next season to see what that reason is.
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Post by Paraiba Ocean on Feb 20, 2007 18:02:48 GMT -5
If the scar was healed than Aang wouldn't have gotten the burn because zuko would not have goind azula and everything would have worked out. I think you mean "joined". And who's to say he wouldn't have joined Azula still? We can't predict Zuko's actions, we can only guess how we think they would occur. Situational irony is a magical thing.
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