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Post by bluespiritzuko on Feb 20, 2007 13:54:14 GMT -5
NO in the season finally i belive zuko has a plan and he did only what he had to do to get azula to trust him and when he says "i have changed" he was really trying to tell Katara that he had changed into a better man I read it somewhere once in a paper it was really good all about the cross roads of destiny and zuko's inocence.
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Post by Power on Feb 20, 2007 13:57:48 GMT -5
NO in the season finally i belive zuko has a plan and he did only what he had to do to get azula to trust him and when he says "i have changed" he was really trying to tell Katara that he had changed into a better man I read it somewhere once in a paper it was really good all about the cross roads of destiny and zuko's inocence. Then why did Zuko look so confused at the end?
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Post by bluespiritzuko on Feb 20, 2007 14:01:54 GMT -5
He was so ashamed he actually had to hurt Aang and Katara just to get Azula to trust him.
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Post by Melis on Feb 20, 2007 14:04:40 GMT -5
NO in the season finally i belive zuko has a plan and he did only what he had to do to get azula to trust him and when he says "i have changed" he was really trying to tell Katara that he had changed into a better man I read it somewhere once in a paper it was really good all about the cross roads of destiny and zuko's inocence. I don't think so, if he had a plan then we would've gotten something from the scene between him and Iroh, or right near the end. He looked confused, like Power said, so he was probably contemplating whether or not the decision he made was a good one or a bad one. The "I have changed" reminded me that Zuko has changed since before, that he's wiser and freer than he's ever been. He's able to make his own decisions now, even if the first one he made was a dumb one -- it guaranteed him the throne. I doubt it. I don't think he cares that much for Aang or Katara. Perhaps maybe a little bit for her since he got to know her a bit, but that's about it. He doesn't know the Gaang, nor do I think he would want to right now.
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Post by bluespiritzuko on Feb 20, 2007 14:14:47 GMT -5
They whole zuko changing thing in the secound season wasn't just for anything his mother said never forget who you are and right now he is good even if he dosn't have a plan is just because azula overwhelmed him he will come to his sences.
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Post by Melis on Feb 20, 2007 14:21:07 GMT -5
They whole zuko changing thing in the secound season wasn't just for anything his mother said never forget who you are and right now he is good even if he dosn't have a plan is just because azula overwhelmed him he will come to his sences. I know that, and I think the reason he joined up with Azula was because she basically dangled up his redemption in the eyes of his father and his nation rather than in his own. On a deeper level, it's guaranteed him the throne because if he had chosen The Gaang, then he would've been seen as a traitor. The most popular theory about Zuko is that because of choosing Azula, he will become Fire Lord by the end of the story. But this is pretty off topic so: Both Zutara and Kataang got a blow, but it both helped them. Zuko and Katara were able to interact in a way that didn't deal trying to wring each other's throats, and Kataang was given conflict, and now nobody can say that it's all "sugary and fluff". It now has its own "dark edge" to it, complications and "forbidden" appeal going on for the ship.
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Post by bluespiritzuko on Feb 20, 2007 14:26:05 GMT -5
He will become fire lord but he will marry katara before as a peace treaty between the nations and in zuko's feverish dreams he was fire lord without a scar if this is the future which it probably is he has been healed now what nation can heal hmm.... waterbenders?
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Post by aquavi on Feb 20, 2007 14:32:01 GMT -5
He will become fire lord but he will marry katara before as a peace treaty between the nations and in zuko's feverish dreams he was fire lord without a scar if this is the future which it probably is he has been healed now what nation can heal hmm.... waterbenders? 1)Dreams are not always prophetic visions. Most people's dream show the workings of the subconscious . Go read about Freud and his work please. 2) It has not been shown that waterbenders can heal scars. Katara even said that the oasis water might heal the 3-yr-old scar. Anything else Katara has healed prior has always been fresh burns, not dead skin.
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Post by Melis on Feb 20, 2007 14:35:44 GMT -5
He will become fire lord but he will marry katara before as a peace treaty between the nations and in zuko's feverish dreams he was fire lord without a scar if this is the future which it probably is he has been healed now what nation can heal hmm.... waterbenders? He'll become Fire Lord, yes, but I don't think he needs to marry Katara as a peace treaty. Why not conferences and stuff like that? Marrying Katara off to the Fire Lord would only benefit the Water Tribes only, whereas the peace treaty offering should be about all the other nations as a whole. They'll think he's only giving leniance to the WT. To me, his feverish dream was nothing more than what Zuko saw himself as, or what he's always wanted to be. The scar represents his humiliation to not only his father, but to his nation as well. By not having the scar in his dream it means that in his ideal world/situation, his already has his father's honor and love. At least that's how I interpreted it.
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Post by bluespiritzuko on Feb 20, 2007 14:57:41 GMT -5
If you think he alredy has his fathers honor and love then why would he listen to Azula talking him into joining her to gain that honor and his fathers love if he didn't have a plan?
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Post by Melis on Feb 20, 2007 15:13:18 GMT -5
If you think he alredy has his fathers honor and love then why would he listen to Azula talking him into joining her to gain that honor and his fathers love if he didn't have a plan? I didn't say that, I said that in the dream he has his father's love and his honor, thus why he doesn't have his scar.
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Post by wwe1415 on Feb 21, 2007 18:08:11 GMT -5
He was so ashamed he actually had to hurt Aang and Katara just to get Azula to trust him. No, he was ahamed that he betrayed his uncle. He probably couldn't care less about Aang and Katara. I don't think Zuko's planning anything. He chose his path, hence the whole "Crossroads of Destiny" title
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Post by bluespiritzuko on Feb 21, 2007 22:10:02 GMT -5
HE DID NOT CHOOSE HIS PATH!!!! dude he is sooo turning good the creators are not just ging to waste the half of the secould season.
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Post by mindbender18 on Feb 21, 2007 22:41:37 GMT -5
^It kinda funny because i can also say the creators aren't going to waste two full seasons of building up Kataang
But i agree with wwe1415, i don't think Zuko's planning anything
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Post by inuyatta on Feb 21, 2007 23:10:18 GMT -5
HE DID NOT CHOOSE HIS PATH!!!! dude he is sooo turning good the creators are not just ging to waste the half of the secould season. No, he definitely chose his path. Where it will lead him remains to be seen. Also, please tone down the n00bish CAPSLOCK!RAGE, k? You've not been here that long, you don't need a warning so soon. =p
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