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Post by gigirl942 on Jan 29, 2007 13:55:28 GMT -5
Okay People.
It's time to get this board out of the dark ages.
Here are the rules for this discussion.
General Rules Apply, so no bashing.
List each ship you know of or want to tell about, and speak your mind on what the new season will bring for that ship.
If possible, please bold the name of the ship.
Example:
Kataang-blah blah
Zutara- Blah Blah babbity
You get it.
START!
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aquavi
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Post by aquavi on Jan 29, 2007 15:04:58 GMT -5
Kataang: S1 was a strong friendship with a fledgling, mostly one-sided crush (it wasn't until 'The Fortuneteller' that Katara even thought about thinking about Aang like that) that grew steadily with each episode; S2 their bond got a lot deeper with more hints of romance from both sides being dropped in. S3 can only bring more tests of their relationship which will only make them and said relationship stronger. I don't expect solid canonization like Sokka/Yue or Sokka/Suki by the end, but if both survive, there should be a solid hint towards that direction. Zutara: It'll take a lot of work before Zuko gets Katara's trust back. And even then, she probably won't trust him completely unless something really specific and poignant happens. Not my ship at all, but I'd like to see how it goes (friendship wise) in canon after S2. If it goes anywhere. Maiko: Like to see how they interact in canon first, mainly with Mai. We already know how Zuko interacts with girls, both romantically (Jin) and not-so-romantically (Song, Katara) and he's still pretty distant either way. Might be a little different with depending on how much she knows about their family history. I just want to see if Mai puts up a wall or becomes a puddle of goo. Sokki/Sukka: ...I just want to see Suki again. I don't care much or this ship simply because there's not enough drama in it for me. Tokka/Soph: What they've been doing with them is fine. It just needs to be pushed a little bit more to show even more of a comfertablity between them that's already there. So you know, more snakr and sarcasm. Soko: If Song comes back, I'm a happy camper. If Zuko apologizes I'd love him. If the gAang meets up with Song somehow, I'd offer my first born to M+B. And that's all from me. For now.
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Post by Ana on Jan 29, 2007 15:16:36 GMT -5
A+ idea Gigi. Now, here we go…
Kataang: First, we’ll get some clearing on the “letting go” thing. Second, Katara will have a lot to think about in regards to Aang, and true her feelings for him, since she almost (or did?) lost him which I think will lead to her realizing she does/will care for Aang That Way. Third, I think the epic/serious aspect of Kataang will continue. As said, the war just got dire and there is hardly time for fluff.
Zutara: I think it’ll all depend on how much interaction Zuko and Katara have. If they have a lot, like if Zuko joins the Gaang or whatever, then there still could be time for Zutara to blossom but if they don’t I’m not so sure. Either way, like Amira said once, in order for anything to occur with Katara, she would have to be willing to forgive him for:
1. betraying her after she let her guard down and opened up to him 2. nearly cost the world it's last hope for peace by aiding Azula in attacking Aang 3. nearly costing Aang his life
That is a lot to overcome.
Soko: I don’t see Song and Zuko making out in a closet anytime soon but I do have hopes for this ship. For Zuko to become “the beautiful prince he was always meant to be” he has to make amends with the wrongdoings he did throughout his butterfly stages including the one with Song. Song showed nothing but kindness to Zuko and all she got in return was a stolen ostrich horse. There has to be restitution for that.
Maiko: Hmm, the best I can guess with this pairing is Mai betraying Azula for Zuko (and vise versa?). She's not that great of a friend and she only seems to be using Mai (and Ty Lee for that matter) to suit her needs. I’m guessing Mai’s feelings for Zuko will have her see the light so to speak.
Tokka: I’m happy with them being snarky but for the sake of this: the possibility of Tokka becoming canon mostly depends on Suki being alive or dead. If she’s alive, Sokka will continue being involved with her. If she’s dead, I can see Toph bonding with Sokka over her death and it'll “free him up”. I don’t think Sokka will see Toph in That Way for a while because of the age difference and whatnot.
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Post by avatariaxxxmari on Jan 29, 2007 15:35:35 GMT -5
1. Kataang ~ I hope the new season will bring a deeper set of trust and emotion between the two. We seen many moments of Aang telling Katara about how he felt, but little from Katara telling Aang. I hope that Katara opens up more to Aang, and realizes, even not in a relationship bond, that Aang will always be there for her most importantly in a deep friendship bond. I would like to see the two not being so shy around each other, and expressing more, feelings, thoughs, opinions, ect. I would also want to here Aang tell his true feelings to Katara, and katara responding, or even telling Aang how she feels about him. Friendship, relationship, whatever, basically more expressions in short terms.
2. Maiko ~ With Zuko being in the gang with Azula, Ty Lee, and Mai, I would love to see more past experiences with Zuko and Mai. I would like to see and hear about what Zuko thought of Mai as a child and how he thinks of her now. I would like to see also if Zuko was the reason for Mai's vague attitude and her personality change.((From childhood to absolence)). With this ship, I would also want to see the expressions of the other characters around the two and what they figure of it. Mostly I want to see if the vague visions, are from the relationships the two might have had, or something else. I just basically want to see how this would work out.
3. Soph ~ Since Yue is gone. This shipping would look more interesting if we found out how both Sokka feels about Toph, and his relationships with the other woman who seem to like him. I think Sokka and Toph will be more opened up with each other, just incase something happened with Suki. Even though Sokka said he was a bit involved with Suki, I think that his mind is being placed on different girls at the moment. I would like to see how this relationship grows, along with other Sokka relationships, such as Sukka and Tokka.
4. Zutara ~ Even though I ship Kataang, this ship will be hard to overcome since it is a very popular and could be well balanced ship. At the moment, I think with the betrayal Zuko gave to Katara when she trusted him, that it would take A LOT of social interaction and time for this ship to gain back up. Though this ship is pretty interesting, it has to come a long way to gain full strength as it did in the cave moments. I hope there is a bit more communication of the two. Just because it makes shipping more interesting, and it makes on how more exciting each episode will be with the relationships.
5. Zujin ~ With Zuko's betryal, I don't think he'll be seeing Jin anytime soon, nor if he's with Mai in some recent episode and they do meet up with Jin, I don't think Mai will be too thrilled about it, especially since she likes him.
Note that in the series, I would like to see more growing bonds between ships, and more trust. Some ships it may take longer than others to achieve this, but that's what I think would make up a good ship, and thats why I ship the relations I do ^^
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Post by Paraiba Ocean on Jan 29, 2007 16:32:56 GMT -5
Kataang - I feel this season is going to be the "make it or break it" season. Either Aang will finally tell Katara out right how he feels, no distractions, and Katara's either going to accept him and realize her true feelings, or be devastated and tell him she doesn't feel the same way. (But I dun wanna see Aang get hurt.) Zutara - Why, why, why, Zuko? It's just made everything more difficult to the nth degree. -_- Basically, for this to happen, all stated facts by Amira (recited by Ana) will have to be done, plus a lot of groundwork. Zuko's got a heck of a lot of a way to go to recover lost ground. Maiko - I can see some development on Mai's opinion of Zuko now and of Zuko's opinion. I also predict flashbacks on Zuko's part of his feelings about Mai in the past. Perhaps also of their interaction post-Agni Kai. Soko - Maybe, maybe not. It all depends on if Song makes a reappearance. I'm not sure if she will, but Zuko...you gotz some 'splaining to do. Zujin - I highly doubt Jin's reappearnace, nor do I want it. Besides, Zuko will have enough women on his plate, dealing with the Dangerous Ladies. Sukka - It's safe to say Suki is most likely dead, but I'd like to see Sokka's response to this. It can very well affect future/current relationships. Soph - It's fairly obvious Toph has a thing for Sokka, but I'm not sure that Sokka feels the same way right now. And I doubt he's going to hop right over to Toph, now that both Yue AND Suki are gone. I'd give a few years before I see anything. Tophaang - It's safe to say Toph is the last thing on Aang's mind when it comes to romance. Unless Toph shows a more gentle side, hopefully for developmental purposes, I can't say that Aang will exactly talk to Katara, see Toph walk by and go "Woah. Dude...she be hawt." In fact, that'll prolly never happen.
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Post by spook on Jan 29, 2007 16:44:03 GMT -5
Uhm okay, my two cents:
Kataang: Well, I've always expected this ship to be fully canon before Avatar ends, and I still do. The deep, caring relationship is there, slight touches of romance have been added, all the ingredients are there basically. The only thing that I know of that could possibly ruine it for them would be the whole Chakras ordeal, but I doubt it.
Zutara: As always, the story will continue and Zutara will live on as a ship. Zutara has never been dependant on canon, so I don't see this ship dying in the near future. But canon-wise? No, I just don't see it happening. A mutual respect, perhaps even friendship, but if Mike and Bryan were planning for something more then I think we would have seen it by now.
Taang: Pretty much the same as Zutara. Taang never struck me as much a 'serious' ship as Zutara though, since many Taangers I've seen willingly acknowledge that the chances of their ship ever becoming canon are slim. So that might help them out in case Kataang or Tokka do become canon, instead of sinking into a depression as their hopes get crushed (remember CoD, anybody?).
Tokka: I don't know, there have been small hints that Toph is crushing on Sokka, but I just can't see Sokka fall for Toph. Sokka is a hormone-driven teenager, so why would he choose Toph over Suki? I just don't see it happen.
Sukka: Well, depends on whether Suki is still alive or not. If she's alive, then I'm sure their relationship will remain canon till the end. And if she's not...well, that'll be number two Sokka loses!
Maiko: Well, I'm not expecting a full-fledged romance here, though I'm sure Mai's crush on Zuko will resurface in season 3. I'm basically just hoping for some comic relief, nothing too serious. Mai just doesn't strike me as the kissy and touchy kinda person, and neither does Zuko. So I'm not expecting too much here, just hoping for a laugh.
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Post by Amira on Jan 29, 2007 16:45:46 GMT -5
Okay, here are my thoughts:
Kataang: On some level Katara I think is going to feel the affects of almost losing Aang and I think she will realize how important he really is to her. I do agree with Para that this is the Kataang make it/break it time. Aang needs to confess his feelings, Katara needs to respond in some way, and we need to see how it all plays out in relation to what the Guru said as well.
Zutara: I don't know how much I see this ship happening especially after the finale. If Zuko had betrayed Katara and did nothing else, I would say that there might be a chance. But he was instrumental in Aang nearly losing his life and Aang is clearly important to Katara and I'm not sure just how easily she will forgive or forget.
Soko & Maiko: I'm not sure if Soko has a chance, but the kids needing a possible place to stay and a place for Aang to rest might provide a chance for Song to return. And I would like to see Song return. Maiko might have a chance to form and I'd like to see how she reacts to him when they finally reunite. I'm curious to see where all of those "crush" hints are heading if anywhere.
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Post by Zutara7 on Jan 29, 2007 17:32:44 GMT -5
Zutara:If this ship is going to happen, Zuko's going to have to do something big to earn Katara's forgiveness. I hope we see more interaction between these two next season.
Maiko:We'll definately see more Mai/Zuko development in season 3 since Zuko's traveling with Azula and co. I hope we find out how he feels about her and if she still likes him the way she used to.
Kataang:I hope we finally find out Katara's true feelings, whether she likes Aang as a friend or more.
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Post by gambitia on Jan 29, 2007 17:38:50 GMT -5
Aang ShipsThe future of all Aang ships depends on what Guru Pathik's words really meant, and if Aang is truly willing to do anything in order to achieve the Avatar State. If, by "let her go," the Guru meant that Aang can have no attachment to Katara whatsoever, I'm not sure Aang would be willing to pay that price. He already did "let her go" as an act of desperation in the finale, but whether that will actually impact his relationship with Katara has yet to be seen. Also, much of the advice Aang has been given runs counter to the entire Avatar State deal: --Toph advised Aang not to put all his force into any one blow...which is exactly what the AvaState does. The Avatar State seems to be an all-or-nothing deal. --Katara advised Aang that "Sometimes it hurts more to hope, and it hurts more to care, but you have to promise me you won't stop caring." By letting go of his earthly attachments, Aang essentially stops caring what happens in the world. This seems more like a bad thing than a good thing (Unless the love chakra and the let-go chakra are equal and are supposed to balance each other. I have no outside knowledge of these things, so I don't know how these things are supposed to work). --Iroh's advice that "Power and perfection are overrated, I'm glad you chose love" seemed too much like foreshadowing to be ignored. --The finale also showed that the Avatar State may be more trouble than it's worth. Its power comes at a very high risk--the end of the Avatars forever--and honestly, most of what we've seen the AvaState do doesn't seem much more powerful than what a highly skilled bender could do. The reason it seems to powerful, to me at least, is because no one has ever dared attack an Avatar in the AvaState--until the finale, were Azula shot some lightning and easily took Aang down. I got off. Back to ships. Kataang--Its future depends entirely on what the Guru meant by "let her go" and what Aang is going to do about it. Katara's bond to Aang is going to deepen, if the end of CroD is any indication. She almost lost him, and in doing so realized how much she loved him. I really think it'd be a shame if Aang has to let any feelings for Katara go. Over the course of Season 2, their bond has deepened into one of the most beautiful and powerful aspects of the show. I love their relationship as it is. Their love seems to have transcended platonic and romantic--those labels are inadequate. I'd really hate to see their relationship smashed to nothing. Tophaang--I don't see it happening. Aang's bond to Katara is so deep that even if he does give Katara up, he's not going to go running to another girl. Also, if he has to give Katara up, he has to give up everyone, so Toph is automatically out that way. Toph's maybe-sorta crush on Sokka also makes this ship less probable. Ty Lang--No. Zuko ShipsMost of these ships rely entirely on how long Zuko stays with his sister and what Zuko does while he is with sister and what he does afterwards (if there IS an afterwards). Maiko--Currently the most likely Zuko ship, the interaction between Zuko and Mai after they've been separated so long is what's going to make or break this ship. Mai pretty clearly still likes Zuko. Zuko's feelings are unknown. Regardless of whether Mai and Zuko officially hook up or not, Mai's crush will play a role in the upcoming season. It is not there for nothing. It would be interesting to see Mai turn on Azula for Zuko. I think Mai is genuinely Azula's friend, even though Azula isn't one to have true friends, but it would be interesting to see Mai in a situation where she had to choose Azula or Zuko. Jinko--The creators have said that they like Jin, and would like to bring her back if given the oppurtunity, but that there were no plans to bring her back. So the future of this ship really depends on whether Mike and Bryan can sneak her back in, and how that's carried out. Soko--Like Paraiba Ocean said--Zuko's got some 'splaining to do. I personally want to see Zuko have to atone for his actions, not just against Song but against several other people as well. It seems to me that he can't progress until he faces his past, including how much he's hurt people. I just would really like to see Song again. She seemed to have a lot of character potential and could be useful to the storyline. Zutara--The season finale really killed this ship, IMO. Not only did Zuko throw Katara's trust back in her face, Katara's bond with Aang is clearly very deep, and I don't foresee that shattering even if Aang ends up having to let Katara go (Just because Aang has to let Katara go doesn't mean Katara has to let Aang go). Zucest--Totally happening right now. Sokka ShipsSadly, these ships depend on who's dead and who's alive Sukka: Totally happening if Suki is alive. If not, well...I'm sure Sokka will mourn her for an episode or two. Tokka: Maybe. The ship makes me squick for some reason, and Sokka's shown no sign of liking Toph like that, and even Toph's feelings are a bit ambiguous, but whatever. I have no opinions here. Sokkla: I can't think of how this would happen. I honestly can't think of any situation that would lead to this pairing. Ty Lokka: Seems pretty one-sided on Ty Lee's part. I don't see Sokka reciprocating any time soon, especially considering Ty Lee may or may not have had a hand in possibly killing Sokka's former girlfriend. Either way, there's no doubt it'll provide some amusement in coming episodes. Various Other ShipsJetterbee--It was very clearly happening, REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE SMELLERSHOTS SAY, until Jet seemingly died. Smellerbee probably mourned Jet for a few weeks while being comforted by her good friend Longshot. This situation led to: Smellershot: It's happening back in Ba Sing Se. RIGHT NOW. Royoshi: Roku and Kyoshi are having a "Yay we're hot dead Avatars" party. Jetara: Twas cute while it lasted, but now that Jet is dead (even though he isn't) it's over. Sadly. Maybe Jet will be brought back to life, even though resurrected characters are lame.
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Post by Coral on Jan 29, 2007 19:51:52 GMT -5
Kataang: I kind of see this happening. After all, Kataang is given too much attention to just be a "crush" And Aang has admitted that he likes Katara more than as a friend. And Katara deeply cares about Aang. So...this is a ship I see with it happening...
Taang: I think that aang sees Toph as a friend and that's it. There hasn't been much proof for it but the whole "Aang saw Toph on the swamp place" could work...
Maiko: The ship I support the most, this I see has a great chance of happening. Its not like Mai's crush is there for nothing. Also, Mai and Zuko will be able to see each other every day, so that must count for something, right?
Zutara: I don't see this happening. Unless Zuko does something that REALLY changes how Katara looks at Zuko and Zuko looks at Katara. I think that it COULD happen but I see the chances as small since Katara does, indeed, have a strong bond with Aang.
Sukka: This really does depend on whether Suki is dead or not. If not, then this will have a high chance of happening.
Ty Lokka: I also don't see much proof of this but Sokka is kind of nervous when near Ty Lee so...possible...
Tokka: We don't technically have any proof that Toph does indeed like Sokka romantically but the whole kissing and hugging Sokka by the arm could work as evidence.
Fashiko: Sorry, just felt like putting this here. Its happening. Zuko has a weird thing about clothes...
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Post by reasonable on Jan 29, 2007 20:25:26 GMT -5
Kataang -vs- ZutaraMore then Aang -vs- Ozai, this the fight fans want to see. Now, despite what some naysayers might, uh, say, neither of these two ships are sunk. Yes, Aang let go of all worldly attachments, but this doesn't mean he has abandoned the world and how feels towards it. Also, if Katara can get past Jet's attempted genocide(eventually), I believe that Zuko still has a shot(eventually). There is just so much easy drama that can be milked out of this confrontation of ships.Who'll win? Well, there is a saying. "There are no winners in a love triangle". Hmm, I believe I got that from a soap opera. Meh. TokkaOr as I like to call it, a heartbreak waiting to happen. It just seems a matter of time before Toph lets slip that she, as everyone can see, likes Sokka. Of course Sokka likes Suki, as we all know. As I said, a heartbreak waiting to happen. TaangToph, despite her bluster, is very soft and insecure. Being rejected, even if Sokka is tactful about it, will leave her hurt pretty badly. A nice little Taang moment could be brought out of this, maybe having Aang feeling rejected himself and having them watch the sunset together or something like. You know, a moment that just makes you want to go AWWWW! Oh, and we'll finally see what Azula REALLY did with Suki.
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Post by lunauc on Jan 29, 2007 20:31:43 GMT -5
Aaaahh.. a thread allowing me to freely rant on my shipping theories as I please. You all might want to read the disclaimer at the bottom, just so we don't have any angry responses. Now, onto the rant! Kataang: Like Spook mentioned, I'm one of those Taangers who have begrudgingly accepted that Kataang is going to happen whether we like it or not. Which is a bit sade considering the writers said, "Expect the unexpected." And I was expecting Kataang since the very first episode, when Boy A met Girl A thus completing the age old formula of cliche obligatory love side story. I'd say it's at least 95% assured that this ship is going to happen regardless of what the Guru meant, but I'll comment on it anyway. "Letting go" will most likely turn out to mean freeing himself of his negative attachments; his obsessive complusions for Katara, his jealous possessive tendencies and his physically driven desires. Once those "Earthly Attachments" are out of the way, Aang can discover his "Spiritual Attachments", and realize that his love for Katara is something "so much more than he ever imagined." (Cue disney music, and release singing doves and dancing platypus bears.) Or the writers might cop out and have the final choice just be a test to see if he would make the "right choice" between love and power. It's unlikely that mastering the Avatar State is an idea that will just fade away after it was just introduced. After all, the mastered state is probably much more powerful and less risky than the wild uncontrolled Avatar state we've seen so far. Of course he may choose to forego the AS if Katara tells him to. He really does do pretty much whatever she says, which is real problem for someone who is supposed to be finding his own path. No matter how many people say she's his strength and hope and whatever else they choose to project into this very plain ship to make it epic, from a purely psychological point, his dependance on her really is a liability. And it reaches beyond the Avatar State. If he continues to be led around by his romantic interest for her, and she doesn't requite those feelings, he's likely to lose hope, if all he was hoping for was her. Part of letting go has to be an acceptance that you do not own the person you love. If they love you back that's great. But you can't let your love be your identity. If that relationship ends, or never begins, then you're no one. Then there's Katara's side of the story. I can't rightfully say whether she is romantically interested in Aang at this point or ever will be. But if she just "decides she's in love with him" after his near death, that I have serious complaints against. I'm not going to say it doesn't happen in real life, nor that it can't happen on the show. But once more, it's a romantic decision based purely on emotional whim rather than long term consideration. I don't doubt that she loves him in a platonic way at this point, but if she jumps to romantic due to momentary fear for his life, sympathy for his burden or pity that he may lose himself to the AS, that's the making for one truly doomed relationship. Either it would lead to Aang not being strong enough to face Ozai in the end, because Katara's worries may hold him back, or after the war in a time of peace when Aang has no reason to be pitied or worried over, Katara may start to wonder why she still needs this younger child to rely on her. After all, she'd still be a young teen herself and he's still a child who would know nothing of love and relationships beyond "if a girl feels bad for you, she'll go out with you." And that sends some pretty irresponsible messages to the children watching this show. While I do believe Kataang is coming, I just hope these major deficiencies are fixed along the way. More likely though it will be a whimsical disney puppy love story in the end, and I'll just have to put up with it and try not to flame the writers afterwards. Tophaang: This is my ship of choice, even though I only give it about a 4% chance of happening(and that's partly wishful thinking). No matter what though, I don't see it being a romance by the end of the show. If it does occur, it will be more of a childhood friends scenario. Pretty much all of his friends are older and have little to nothing in common with him or they're already dead. Toph's never really had friends before, and hasn't let herself open up too much to the others in the group. Toph is peer in numerous ways, from age, to height, to prodigy status, history of running away, handled specially for their individual strenghts/weaknesses, both know what it is to have grown ups decide their fate and both have pretty big egos over their abilites. They also make a pretty nice foil for one another. Aang is too sweet and goofy sometimes, and Toph can be very snarky and standoffish. Yet as seen in the desert, Aang definitely has his dark side, and Toph has shown moments of gentleness with Iroh and Katara. So, they would balance eachother out nicely, and may help with their individual problems. Still, this ship is only likely to happen if Kataang doesn't, and that's like betting on getting struck by lightning. Still, it could happen in several ways. First of all, there is the Guru's teachings. "Letting go" might mean the Guru knows something that Aang doesn't, that being that Katara loves him, but isn't in love with him, or Aang really does just have an unhealthy crush. Thus for his own mental health, he needs to "let it go". That may seem like a simple idea, no matter how unlikely it may be to happen, but it could lead to quite a bit of angst and drama on Aang's part as he outright refuses to believe it or give up the emotions he's clinging to. It's not easy giving up one's first love. But it could turn out to be a learning experience for him, especially if Katara does end up with another guy, ans he learns to be happy for her, and realizes that just because she isn't in love with him, doesn't mean they don't love each other. I kind of like it, for the sense that it does teach a lesson to the young viewers who will be going into their first loves soon, if they haven't already. It helps cleanse out a bit of the Disney/prime time teen drama brainwashing misconceptions most young people have when it comes to romance. However, it's probably not going to happen like that. On the other hand, coming out of his failed attempt to let go of Katara, Aang might be convinced that he did let her go, from the stand point that since a crush is in essence a psychological response, if he thinks he has let her go he might go into season three not feeling his heart race or his cheeks flush around her and feel he's lost something. There by he might distance himself from her. In either of these scenarios he'd probably need a friend to help him through it. Toph seems to be the best bet. After all, if he can't talk to Katara about it, and he Sokka is likely to be hung up on Suki, Toph, who is the least affected by all of this is the one who'd be the most use. It would give them a chance to really talk and learn about eachother, rather than just earthbending together, than pointing all their attention toward the water siblings. Another possibility is that the GAang might get split up as they go into the war. Sokka is probably going to want to go back for Suki, and if Aang is still healing from his injuries, he'll have to stay behind. Since Sokka is probably going to be running on emotions, I doubt Katara will let him go alone, and if Aang is stable enough that he doesn't need healing she may leave him with Toph and go with Sokka. After all, we haven't seen how Toph does against firebenders. She's superb against earthbenders, but air, water and fire attacks don't have to touch the ground, and since she hasn't faced many, if any of them, she probably doesn't know much of their stances or tactics. Also, in a jail break scenario, where a lot of people might be running around who she doesn't know, it might be hard for Toph to tell friend from foe. Thus they may have to leave her behind anyway. Now, if something goes wrong with either team, either Sokka and Katara getting captured, or Toph, Aang and the Earth King being attacked, the group might get split up. If this happens it could give Aang a chance to finally find out what it's like to live without Katara's constant adivce and approval. It would be a nice chance for him to grow as an individual and befriend Toph. Not to mention, if when the group does get back together and Katara has find a guy she likes along the way, Aang will be that less likely to be crushed by it if he's strengthened himself in travelling. Of course, there's also the "Swamp theory" which several Taangs have helped turn into a run away subplot theory on par with the Kennedy assassination's "back and to the left". However, that's more hobby than factual evidence. Still entertaing though. ;D Zutara: Redemption is the only word I can think of to bring this ship about. Personally I am of the opinion that Zuko is planning to betray his father and sister and was trying to help capture the Avatar as a fine trophy to present before the Fire Lord, just to get him in position for an assassination attempt. Even if that is true though, I don't see Katara being to understanding or forgiving any time soon. He'd have to save her life, or maybe Aang's, do something noble and selfless to redeem himself in her eyes before this is ever going to happen. Katara does have a natural maternal tendency, and if she does see something in him worth saving, she might try to help him through his problems. Still, I only give it a 2% chance. Sukka: Like Kataang I've seen this ship coming from season one. I'm just wondering if it will gain some depth. So far it's been a very simplistic obligatory love story, even more so than Kataang. With Sokka possibly about to undertake a quest to get her back, in hopes of not losing her as he did Yue, it set a stage for a dramatic damsel in distress story. Cliche, yes. Unhealthy love based on intense situation, yes. But I'm not too concerned with Sokka making intelligent decisions anyway. It does have the potential for a classical young love theme though. Tokka: No. Even if Sokka were interested in short flat-chested, 12 year old girls with bad attitudes, I don't think he's going to just forget about saving Suki or not mourn over her death for the rest of the season if he doesn't save her. Toph's puppy love crush is bound to sour. And coincidentally it's also something else she and Aang may turn out to have in common. Ty Lokka: The only way I see Sokka letting go of Suki was if she is dead, in which case, he'd blame Ty Lee right along with Azula, or if Suki moved on to another guy. I've been considering for a while, if the freedom fighters didn't escape, but got captured by the Dai Lee, and Jet didn't die, that would put Suki and Jet together. If they end up a couple, I could see Ty Lokka as the first canon spite ship. Maiko: Her crush may be cute, but she's kind of sadistic. If they do end up falling for eachother during Zuko's stay with the fire nation, either he's going to turn fully to the Dark Side, or she'll help him realize some of his own flaws by comparison. Either way, one of them is bound to change if their ship is going to happen. Jetara: Since this is a cartoon adventure, the guy you think is dead is bound to come back at a dramatic moment to save the day. So, I figure Jet is still alive and he will probably pop back into their lives. I can't say how or when, but he has taken steps toward proving himself to Katara, so the ship does have some credit to it. Kataru: Haru is another character I see coming back this season. With their only chance of rising an army being to free Bumi and gather the renegade earth forces, Haru may well be among them. As they work with the earth army it could give Katara and Haru time together. Personally, he's my choice for a Katara ship. They could be stable and boring, but also cool and heroic together. Of course, that's only if he comes back. EarthBosco: Though it may not be romantic(at least I hope it isn't) I do think it is a strong bond which will never sever. Jinko: Given that they are still in Ba Sing Se, and Zuko may run into her, and then questions quickly arise as to why he and his uncle aren't working the tea shop anymore, ot why he's wearing a fire nation uniform. I'm most curious how Mai would react if she found out about the date. Maybe it will even come about that Zuko will have to save her, thus breaking his cover, or save her life by hurting her feelings and declaring he only went out with her to keep up appearances while hiding his identity. Either way, she might have a chance to stay in the story, especially if she ran into a certain group of freedom fighters hiding out and licking their wounds. Smellershot: While Smellerbee pretty obviously has a crush of Jet, and I do think he's still alive, personally I hope Long Shot gets her to realize his feelings. Too often the reformed cool guy gets all the girls in shows and movies. It would be nice if the quiet kind guy got the girl for a change. Though that's just personal opinion, not logical analysis.
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Post by wildimagination on Jan 30, 2007 1:03:52 GMT -5
Kataang: Well, Katara will probably be more protective of Aang now, but I doubt she'll devolope more feelings
Sukka: Hoo boy...if Sukji turns out to be dead, then I'll feel really bad for sokka. If Suki's alive, then I shall do my happy dance of doom! XD lol
Zujin: Jin is a very influencial person. I hope she comes back into Zuko's life and makes him see the light! ^_^
Longerbee: Could be possible, though I barely see any sparks betweren the two.
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Post by mcdefenseless on Jan 30, 2007 19:50:08 GMT -5
Kataang: I think we'll see them kiss. 'Nuff said.
Zutara: I think the end of Season 2 was just the beginning of a much better relationship for the two of them. I definitely think they'll become friends, and there's a strong possibility that they'll have at least a bit of romantic interaction. Maybe even a possible kiss. I smell a love triangle and not just a fanon one....
Maiko: Well, Mai's certainly crushing. Dunno about Zuko. Guess we'll see. I think some chemistry between them is quite likely.
Moappa: nevermind
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Post by Werewolf Cookie on Jan 30, 2007 20:20:24 GMT -5
Kataang: I've been expecting this. I think Katara's been kind-of thinking of Aang in That Way for much of the second season, and his near-death experience will have shown her that she needs to be open with him about this sort of thing since they don't know how long they'll have each other. I think that the "letting go" thing means that Aang can still care about her but can't let his care for her dominate everything. Aang never seems to go AvaState except when one of his friends is hurt or threatened; he needs to be able to go AS when his friends are safe, and restrain himself when they're not. And if it really comes down to the AvaState or Katara... Aang will choose Katara. Every time. Zutara: Maybe some chemistry as an act of fanservice, but I don't think they'll end up together. Then again, the Creators have told us to expect the unexpected... Maiko: Things are definitely looking up for us Maikos, but much to my disappointment I don't think Mai will end up with our Zuzu. Let's say Mai and Zuko are together while he's with Azula; then he leaves Azula to become good, and with this newfound goodness comes a newfound good girl. I'm hoping that doesn't happen; what I'm hoping is that Zuko decides to betray Azula and rescue Iroh, and Mai finds out and either lets him escape or chooses to go with him. Cute in-character Maikoness. Sukka: I think Suki's dead. If she's alive, sure, I'm not really for or against this ship. I doubt Sokka will be totally faithful to Suki, so I don't think Sukka really gets in the way of other Sokka ships, but they definitely have a good thing going and if she's alive it'd be nice if it continues. Tykka: Mayhaps. I'm sure there'll be much more Tykka chemistry, and if she becomes good then I'm sure there'll be plenty of Tykka, although if Suki is dead and Ty Lee had a hand in it I'm not so sure. Soph: As much as I want this to happen, I don't think requited Soph will be shown. I think maybe Katara will find out about Toph's crush, and hopefully Sokka will find out too, but I doubt there'll be any kissing or anything Soko: My back-up Zuko ship. I think Song will make a reappearance. I like Song. She's so sweet. Whether or not her and Zuko will have any romantic interaction is up for debate. Karu: Like Song, I think Haru will make a reappearance, but I don't think he and Katara will have a romantic relationship. Soru: I wish. Wuroh: See above. Pakana: Here's hoping. Smellershot: This is totally happening, and will continue if and when these characters reappear. Momappa: Hell yes.
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