Power
Fire Lord Zuko
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Toph and Sokka. Every day they get closer to each other.
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Post by Power on Mar 28, 2007 19:13:10 GMT -5
Both sides, its getting a little too snippy in here. I ask you guys to tone it down now, or else I am going to delete some posts. Consider this a warning.
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yiceman
Bosco
Not all who wander are lost.
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Post by yiceman on Mar 28, 2007 19:15:18 GMT -5
I would also say that's not the way the writers would portray their relationship, as the cave scene is evidence.
Now you can say "Rargh, but he betrayed her so she'll hate him" but let us assume that they've gotten over that whole mess, he's turned a new leaf and she's forgiven him.
Now why would their personalities clash? Think about it; if you shave away from Zuko the want and need to regain his honor, you shave away all of his negative qualities. The best example is the Zuko from Zuko Alone, where he wasn't obsessed with his mission to catch the Avatar. Would Katara had dissaproved of anything Zuko did in that episode?
The same goes for the "spineless wimp Katara" people. Anyone who ever writes her as a damsel in distress deserves to get ice-daggers thrown at them like Jet. Shippers often get so wrapped up in forcing the characters together, they forget the basic personalities of those characters. Kataangers don't do this often, because Aang and Katara already share a good relationship. But others tend to forget certain facts like "Katara is strong willed" or "Azula has no ability to love"
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Post by lunauc on Mar 28, 2007 19:16:06 GMT -5
Both sides, its getting a little too snippy in here. I ask you guys to tone it down now, or else I am going to delete some posts. Consider this a warning. Snippy? I thought we were joking with eachother. Hmmm... maybe I should stop posting in here. My intentions always seem to be misinterpretted as hostile.
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Power
Fire Lord Zuko
Kataangian Elite. Air/Water Warrior
Toph and Sokka. Every day they get closer to each other.
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Post by Power on Mar 28, 2007 19:18:09 GMT -5
I am not pointing names bro, I am just saying because I know how these things get to a certain point. Feel free to post anytime ok?
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Post by Blind Bandit on Mar 28, 2007 19:26:15 GMT -5
Which is where you have to come to recognize what kind of writers the Avatar writing staff are. They certainly aren't going to have Aang transfer his full crush over to Toph in a single episode. Which is why I rule situations that I see as totally unlikely to occur out. Hence why I consider the arguement that if Zutara happened, Aang would be miserable, as crap. It's a cartoon tv show...whatever happens, the main character isn't going to be crying in a corner alone when the series ends. Now it would be funny as heck if he really was crying in a corner at th end of the show. you have one sick sense of humor.lol
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Post by lunauc on Mar 28, 2007 19:26:32 GMT -5
I am not pointing names bro, I am just saying because I know how these things get to a certain point. Feel free to post anytime ok? Ah, don't worry, Power. I'm not taking it personally. Just kind of a realization. It's kind of a waste of my time to post in here. No offense everyone, it's fun to bounce my theories and speculations off ya, but after a while, it just gets boring when no one takes your opinions seriously. So, I'm just bored with it here. I think I'll make this my last post in this thread. See ya around Kataangs. Have fun.
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yiceman
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Not all who wander are lost.
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Post by yiceman on Mar 28, 2007 19:28:42 GMT -5
I suppose I should also bid you goodbye. Not permanently, but I don't suspect I'll return here any time soon. I shall leave you with a parting gift, make of it what you will: www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcOZ6xFxJqg
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Post by Blind Bandit on Mar 28, 2007 19:43:34 GMT -5
Both sides, its getting a little too snippy in here. I ask you guys to tone it down now, or else I am going to delete some posts. Consider this a warning. got it, my bad. I think I got alittle too snpping. So I will watch it from now on. thanks for bring me back to my senses. *Smacks self* I suppose I should also bid you goodbye. Not permanently, but I don't suspect I'll return here any time soon. I shall leave you with a parting gift, make of it what you will: www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcOZ6xFxJqgsee you around like I said we may disagree but I have no problem with ya. Wow I haven't herd that song in a long time. it brings back very old memories.lol
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Post by Amira on Mar 28, 2007 19:55:35 GMT -5
Hmmm... maybe it's a good idea for Yice, Me and the other debaters to stay out of the Sky Castle for a while. We'll see how long you can enjoy fluffing eachother before it gets boring. ;D It's not just the fluffing. In all honesty I had people PMming (and I've said this privately) that it didn't feel like debating. It felt like attacks. People felt that if they liked Kataang they were stupid and only able to grasp things on a simplistic level, which is not true at all. I don't want people feeling like that. I don't want people feeling uncomfortable or upset over something that normally would make them happy. Just like I don't want Zutarians or Taangs to feel that just because their ship has little to no canon that it's ridiculous to ship it or they're stupid for shipping what they love. I like debating, but I also like a little time to digest everything and just enjoy what I like for the sheer fact that I like it. No one should feel that they need to continuously justify why they like something. Ask me to explain my views and I will happily discuss them. I'm sorry if I'm coming into this all late, but this sort of stuff bothers me very much and I don't like people being upset or to feel uncomfortable posting here or anywhere. Not anyone in this room or its visitors. I like it when you guys have deep discussions but everyone needs to understand that there are people who sit behind the computer with feelings. Everyone needs to respect each other.
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Post by Blind Bandit on Mar 28, 2007 20:19:25 GMT -5
Hmmm... maybe it's a good idea for Yice, Me and the other debaters to stay out of the Sky Castle for a while. We'll see how long you can enjoy fluffing eachother before it gets boring. ;D It's not just the fluffing. In all honesty I had people PMming (and I've said this privately) that it didn't feel like debating. It felt like attacks. People felt that if they liked Kataang they were stupid and only able to grasp things on a simplistic level, which is not true at all. I don't want people feeling like that. I don't want people feeling uncomfortable or upset over something that normally would make them happy. Just like I don't want Zutarians or Taangs to feel that just because their ship has little to no canon that it's ridiculous to ship it or they're stupid for shipping what they love. I like debating, but I also like a little time to digest everything and just enjoy what I like for the sheer fact that I like it. No one should feel that they need to continuously justify why they like something. Ask me to explain my views and I will happily discuss them. I'm sorry if I'm coming into this all late, but this sort of stuff bothers me very much and I don't like people being upset or to feel uncomfortable posting here or anywhere. Not anyone in this room or its visitors. I like it when you guys have deep discussions but everyone needs to understand that there are people who sit behind the computer with feelings. Everyone needs to respect each other. I agree and thanks.
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Post by lunauc on Mar 28, 2007 20:24:29 GMT -5
Hmmm... maybe it's a good idea for Yice, Me and the other debaters to stay out of the Sky Castle for a while. We'll see how long you can enjoy fluffing eachother before it gets boring. ;D It's not just the fluffing. In all honesty I had people PMming (and I've said this privately) that it didn't feel like debating. It felt like attacks. Ara ara... I can't even make a joke without it coming off as an attack. *sigh* Anyway, that's the reason I've decided to stop posting in this thread.Too much of what I post gets taken as an attack. It's never my intention. Sometimes I'm joking, and sometimes I'm trying to offer intelligent discussion. But somehow it usually gets interpretted as a slight against people here. No matter how many times I say I'm not calling anyone stupid for liking a cartoon couple, which is the blatantly obvious canon pairing, anytime I offer a "what if" it seems to be taken as a slap in the face. I'm sorry. I'm wrong, not you. And I'm tired of just upsetting people. If everything I post in here only serves to upset people, rather than make them consider or imagine something different, than there's just no point in doing this anymore. That is all. I just don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. I'm not upset or emotional as I make this decision. It just seems like the logical thing to do, since it's just no fun anymore. So, I'm leaving this thread alone. Don't worry. It's not like I'm leaving the board. As for Yice, well, you'd have to ask him. But I'm done in here. Thank you all for putting up with me so long, Lunauc
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Post by daydream11 on Mar 28, 2007 20:27:12 GMT -5
[ Lol, we posted at the same time. About the debates, it all depends on how often yice comes in. Actually I bet you by one mintue.lol I win. but ya maybe yicemen will pick on the zutrans for a while becasue even though where fluffy where alos one of the more logical ships. I agree I debated out why don't everyone who wants to debate go pick on another ship for a while. Its not that I don't like debating with you but I think you a little too analytical for your own good. ;D Not really, because I can always find something I don't like in your arguments. Still, I have to say one thing... Not quite. He's coming out of it more quickly than people give him credit for, especially after what happened in that underground city. And I need to go. Bible study awaits me in a half hour. I feel sorry for ya bible study tends to be very booring. Quite the contrary, I love Bible study. The youth leaders are great, so it's not like any of us ever fall asleep. We're too busy laughing. @ Yice: I've gotten used to you being ours. Leave the Zutarians alone. And in response to that Zuko Alone thing about Zuko being positive, I just feel like he'd be too boring for Katara. Too boring, too implusive (even more so than Aang), and he holds grudges too easily. I mean, he has passion, but it always seems to be aimed towards things that just don't work.
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Post by Blind Bandit on Mar 28, 2007 20:30:18 GMT -5
It's not just the fluffing. In all honesty I had people PMming (and I've said this privately) that it didn't feel like debating. It felt like attacks. Ara ara... I can't even make a joke without it coming off as an attack. *sigh* Anyway, that's the reason I've decided to stop posting in this thread.Too much of what I post gets taken as an attack. It's never my intention. Sometimes I'm joking, and sometimes I'm trying to offer intelligent discussion. But somehow it usually gets interpretted as a slight against people here. No matter how many times I say I'm not calling anyone stupid for liking a cartoon couple, which is the blatantly obvious canon pairing, anytime I offer a "what if" it seems to be taken as a slap in the face. I'm sorry. I'm wrong, not you. And I'm tired of just upsetting people. If everything I post in here only serves to upset people, rather than make them consider or imagine something different, than there's just no point in doing this anymore. That is all. I just don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. I'm not upset or emotional as I make this decision. It just seems like the logical thing to do, since it's just no fun anymore. So, I'm leaving this thread alone. Don't worry. It's not like I'm leaving the board. As for Yice, well, you'd have to ask him. But I'm done in here. Thank you all for putting up with me so long, Lunauc It not just you, and its not that your not respected or misunderstood it's just after a while after debating my butt of in what was suppost to be relzxing banter it become tiresome. I really do enjoy debating but I don't like doing it all the time and on somting thats as hard to quantify as shipping. Also I respect you and yicemen even if you guys somtimes don't see eye to eye with me or everyone else.
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Power
Fire Lord Zuko
Kataangian Elite. Air/Water Warrior
Toph and Sokka. Every day they get closer to each other.
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Post by Power on Mar 28, 2007 20:34:44 GMT -5
@daydream: Amen to that I love Bible study..but to get on track. Lunauc: Its not that we dont appreciate you, but when things go over and over after it has beaten to death, its gets a little frustrating for some of the members and the PMs i get tell me the story. Hey some of us just want to have a little fluff moment you know But with the lack of news about season 3, everybody is trying to keep themselves through AWS
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Post by Amira on Mar 28, 2007 20:37:15 GMT -5
Do not get me started on the AWS...LOL.
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