gambitia
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Post by gambitia on Mar 25, 2006 0:46:04 GMT -5
For those who think Song is a mary-sue, may I point something out?
Katara Tragic past: check Dead family: check Powerful: check Beautiful: check Scars: nope
Song Tragic past: check Dead family: check Powerful: nope Beautiful: check Scars: check
She's no more sue-like than Katara.
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Youkai-Slayer
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Post by Youkai-Slayer on Mar 25, 2006 0:46:30 GMT -5
Chemistry Appa's butt! Zuko did not use the same soothing tone of voice with her than he does with Katara. He showed about as much interest with her as he did Jun. Only with Katara are the interesting moments to be had. I am upset because Zutarians are jumping ship just because of this episode and going on board this new ship. There was no Kataang kiss like Sokka and Yue. The lights went out and they saw the crystals. Katara didn't stand mesmerized after the moment. As soon as there was a way out she ran. I am just dismayed to see so many people lose hope. There was also Zutarian foreshadowing in that episode. The two lovers were wear Fire Nation and Water Tribe colors. Their story is Pyramus and Thisbe just like Zutara has been described.
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Post by cami on Mar 25, 2006 0:46:39 GMT -5
3. It has been shown that Iroh and Zuko are incredibly inept at living off the land. They desperately need a guide. And here's Song: a healer and farmer who knows her way around the land. Why bother to introduce a new character to guide Iroh and Zuko when the creators have one right in front of them? She could be a new character in the show.. notice how they laugh when they talk about the season being about Earth.. Thanks guys, I don't have too many other questions to ask you guys, is there anything else you want to add that you think the fans might want to know?
Mike: Well, there's going to be a new main character that joins the group in season two.
Ah, okay.
Mike: We'll leave it at that. [laughs]
Bryan: [laughs] Yeah, that's all we can say.
So, if I asked what direction you might take the second season… then you guys wouldn't be able to tell me about that then?
Mike: The second season… it's all about Earth.
Bryan: Earth! [laughs]
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babbs
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Post by babbs on Mar 25, 2006 0:48:52 GMT -5
I don't think Song's going to be the new character, cami. She doesn't have any special powers. ;D
Although I'm leaning towards Toph or Jojo.
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gambitia
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Post by gambitia on Mar 25, 2006 0:49:17 GMT -5
@youkai: you're in denial, dear. You're choosing not to see what could possibly happen between Song and Zuko.
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Youkai-Slayer
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Post by Youkai-Slayer on Mar 25, 2006 0:51:37 GMT -5
I am not in denial. You don't like Katara. You would pair up Zuko with anyone so long as it isn't Katara. I say you ignore what is there so long as you can live in the hope that Zuko will not be with Katara even though a show based on mythology and balance naturally would pair up Fire/Water and Earth/Air.
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Post by Hatsumomo on Mar 25, 2006 0:51:55 GMT -5
Let us not forget our new characters like Jojo and Malu!
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Post by almighty on Mar 25, 2006 0:53:17 GMT -5
Chemistry Appa's butt! Zuko did not use the same soothing tone of voice with her than he does with Katara. He showed about as much interest with her as he did Jun. Only with Katara are the interesting moments to be had. I am upset because Zutarians are jumping ship just because of this episode and going on board this new ship. There was no Kataang kiss like Sokka and Yue. The lights went out and they saw the crystals. Katara didn't stand mesmerized after the moment. As soon as there was a way out she ran. I am just dismayed to see so many people lose hope. There was also Zutarian foreshadowing in that episode. The two lovers were wear Fire Nation and Water Tribe colors. Their story is Pyramus and Thisbe just like Zutara has been described. I knew that the color of the earthbenders' clothings will be brought up eventually. Zuko's voice towards Katara showed a mocking tone. He sees her as a little girl. With Song, he showed a calm voice, which lets face it, Zuko has never really shown anyone other than Iroh and Aang (when Aang was in the Spirit world). Yes Katara ran out. It's an awkward because she's the one who suggested the idea and it went through. When a girl gets her first real kiss, they often become a bit bashful. For Katara, maybe it was better that she got out of there before someone says something and ruins the moment. Might I add they were two earthbenders... not a water and a fire.
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babbs
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Post by babbs on Mar 25, 2006 0:53:50 GMT -5
Malu's dead, so she can't join the group. Unless she hangs around like a Casper-figure or something. ;D
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Post by Confettie on Mar 25, 2006 0:53:54 GMT -5
Chemistry Appa's butt! Zuko did not use the same soothing tone of voice with her than he does with Katara. He showed about as much interest with her as he did Jun. Only with Katara are the interesting moments to be had. I am upset because Zutarians are jumping ship just because of this episode and going on board this new ship. There was no Kataang kiss like Sokka and Yue. The lights went out and they saw the crystals. Katara didn't stand mesmerized after the moment. As soon as there was a way out she ran. I am just dismayed to see so many people lose hope. There was also Zutarian foreshadowing in that episode. The two lovers were wear Fire Nation and Water Tribe colors. Their story is Pyramus and Thisbe just like Zutara has been described. ;D ^ Almighty so said that! Someone going to use the colors of those Earthbenders clothes to justify Zutara. Well Zuko was trying to show respect to Song. She did heal Iroh and was kind enough to invite two strangers to her house. For all she knew they could have been Fire Nation spies and yet she invited them over. Yes you can be a healer without having waterbending powers it's called a herbalist there was one in the episode of bluespirit. Anyways the more I read this thread the bigger fan of Soka i get, I'm going to look for pixs to make a new sig to sick under my current one ;D.
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gambitia
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Post by gambitia on Mar 25, 2006 0:55:34 GMT -5
I am not in denial. You don't like Katara. You would pair up Zuko with anyone so long as it isn't Katara. I say you ignore what is there so long as you can live in the hope that Zuko will not be with Katara even though a show based on mythology and balance naturally would pair up Fire/Water and Earth/Air. Yes, you are in denial. I'm not saying your ship is dead, however even some of the most die-hard Zutarians have admitted that there was something between Song and Zuko. What the something was isn't decided. You're the only one who refuses to believe. Can I say something? I used to like Zutara (OMG!GASP!). Way back when I was first getting into the show. I liked the fanfic, I liked it all. But the more I saw, heard, and read Zutara, the less plausible I thought it was. I read the theories posted, and slowly became more and more skeptical of their plausibility. If Zutara happens, power to them. I honestly believe it will not happen, but I don't control the show.
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Post by cami on Mar 25, 2006 0:56:54 GMT -5
We cannot call this ship Soka.. why?? Sokka.. you know.. guy in his underwear.. hair down.. beginning of episode.. how soon they forget the sight of soo much bare skin..
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Youkai-Slayer
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Post by Youkai-Slayer on Mar 25, 2006 0:57:05 GMT -5
I know they were two earthbenders but why use those colors if they were not significant. You could have use Black and White, Green, and Brown, Purple and Orange etc. Why choose red and blue. It can do nothing but say Zutara. If it was meant to describe Aang and Katara not only would they not be a pairing divided by war but their clothes would have been Air Nation and Water Tribe colors. If it was meant for Zung (SongXZuko) then the clothes would be Fire and Earth colors. It is a deliberate choice.
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Post by adictvbitrsweet on Mar 25, 2006 0:58:37 GMT -5
Know what I think? Maybe Brian and Micheal are playing with us.... Chances are they know what a Mary-Sue is. If they used Song just to annoy us a little, I would find that more funny than irritating.. Bryan: Dude these kids are really into this Micheal: I know right Bryan: Oh man you know what we should do? Micheal: no Bryan what. Bryan: I'm thinkin we should add something so totally Mary-Sue that these forum kids will totesally be suspicious and stuff Micheal: ok sounds good to me bryan. Bryan: know what else? i think we should make some of our girl fans happy Micheal: ok Bryan: you wanna give Zuko his hair back? Micheal: yeah lets give Zuko his hair back. Bryan: maybe we should put Sokka with his hair down again Micheal: we got good reception with that Bryan: yeah i know Micheal: hey bryan? Bryan: yeah Micheal: can we add some hippies just for the heck of it? Bryan : yeah ok ;D Song was Mary-Sue, but first impressions aren't neccessarily accurate Edit// In the legend the lovers were from rival towns, eh? That kind of says a lot to me. sorry, i guess I spent too long typing. above writing not entirely related to current topic being discussed
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Post by Hatsumomo on Mar 25, 2006 0:58:51 GMT -5
Malu's dead, so she can't join the group. Unless she hangs around like a Casper-figure or something. ;D Jojo can join. What about Kinto? They're even in the card game. Plus they were mentioned before the season even started.
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