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Post by Revitalize Book on Jun 5, 2006 19:21:12 GMT -5
*Whew!* I hate upsetting people here. ;_; @alleluis: Well, I meant her reasons help she why she does something- not that it makes it okay. I know you might have been aiming it at me, but 'evil' depends on how someone sees it. What she did *to me* was wrong, however, someone else could see it as RIGHT, and if they were basing it on logic at makes it okay, then nearly killing someone is ok. HOWEVER, if we're going on soceitys view, it is completely wrong. ((I apologize, but I feel we are also bringing religion into this somehow. O.0 I am uncomfortable. xD)) I'm just saying that, as far as humans go, what we base it on, our reasons, and the enviorment we live in is what determines 'evil'. Centuries ago, things that are evil now where ok back then....(which doesn't add much to this discussion. xD) I'm just being honest when I say I believe that it is a matter of opinion on whether Azula is evil and/or twisted, or not. Knowing her reasons helps understand her, is where I come from. It doesn't make what she does okay. But opinion is opinion, and I don't count any as invalid. *Not saying you do or anything. xD* Edit: I didn't say evil wasn't relative, did I? I meant she doesn't seem evil to me. Not that her being evil wasn't relative.xp Eh, but since this is the Sula thread.... xD Can anyone imagine Sokka and Azul eating dinner, and Azula is just staring at Sokka as she just stuffs his face..? Azula: Do you always eat with this much...*Dodges flying meat*...gusto? Sokka: Nnmh? Azula: Chew and swallow dear. xD Edit: @jazzie: It does represent AzulaxSokka! xD
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Alleluia
Kyoshi Mai
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Post by Alleluia on Jun 5, 2006 20:20:51 GMT -5
Edit: I didn't say evil wasn't relative, did I? I meant she doesn't seem evil to me. Not that her being evil wasn't relative.xp Well, yes you did. Saying whether Azula is evil or not depends on your point of veiw and society's standards, as you do again here: @alleluis: Well, I meant her reasons help she why she does something- not that it makes it okay. I know you might have been aiming it at me, but 'evil' depends on how someone sees it. What she did *to me* was wrong, however, someone else could see it as RIGHT, and if they were basing it on logic at makes it okay, then nearly killing someone is ok. HOWEVER, if we're going on soceitys view, it is completely wrong. I'm just saying that, as far as humans go, what we base it on, our reasons, and the enviorment we live in is what determines 'evil'. Centuries ago, things that are evil now where ok back then....(which doesn't add much to this discussion. xD) I'm just being honest when I say I believe that it is a matter of opinion on whether Azula is evil and/or twisted, or not. Knowing her reasons helps understand her, is where I come from. It doesn't make what she does okay. But opinion is opinion, and I don't count any as invalid. *Not saying you do or anything. xD* is basing the definition of evil on something subjective. That is saying evil is evil only in relation to how those veiwing feel about it. That is saying that it is relative. Basically, that there isn't an objective truth here. Which I am disagreeing with. lol I think this is on topic in the Sola(or w/e this ship's name is) thread, because I can't picture Sokka with someone evil. Unless Azula is redeemed in the show first, somehow. Which I hope for, but don't think is very likely at the moment.
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Post by Revitalize Book on Jun 5, 2006 20:44:19 GMT -5
>.<
I mean...whether she is evil or not is objective to the person, but in general it is always relative, as Aang and gang may see her as evil, and Iroh and Zuko does; which affects their reaction to her. I hope this makes a bit more sense. xD I'm not sure what you mean by objective though; it is only relative to the person who views if they view it as relative (in whichever way they like) *to me*, but in the grand scheme of things, it is always relative...*I don't know how to word it otherwise. ;_;*
But remember: this is how I view it. I still don't see Azula as evil; just twisted, but with room still to grow.>.< I feel a bit as though your trying to change my mind. xD But I know you won't and I'm not either so...
Well, I think if we see a bit more of Azulas personal history and-uh- what she likes aside from things that 'destroy' and involving perfection-ways xD, I would be better able to see her with Sokka. I think they could change eachother, and could be happy...It's at a "que sera sera" point, a bit. xD
Edit: I think I see the miscommunication. When I imply whether Azula being evil or not is relative, I mean to the individual fan, not the whole fandom- it is always relative to the fandom. But just because it is doesn't mean it has to be to the individual fan.xD Just as people disregard various facts, disregarding whether Azula is evil or not can happen *even though it may be seen as wrong* Just a different view.
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Post by Revitalize Book on Jun 6, 2006 19:10:31 GMT -5
I just posted some Sokka/Azula sentences over at the Creations board. They're in this post (scroll down just a bit). Check 'em out and tell me what you think! ;D P.S. Printing: The original sentence that spawned my Sokka-line is in there. .... .... Pure. awe. Jazzie. The lines...are brillance in words- that is all I can... I LOVE them! They-it- whoa...You've inspired me to work harder on my stuff....whoa-it... *Re-reads lines in awe...(and then prints them out to read wherever!)* I can't even pick a fav- their all my favorite...! Really really like them Jazzie. *It's moments like these where I want the darn karma button back! xD (Imaginary karmas)* So awesom... Edit: How do you come up with such smashing lines? xD (And yaaaaaay Sokkas line! Sokkas line!-"I've seduced princesses before"- *Yue glares* Oh, go on girl! xD Yaaaaaay!)
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Post by Revitalize Book on Jun 6, 2006 21:04:12 GMT -5
xD Probably. The moon would give an eerie glow, and Sokka would have a chill...
Sokka: Let's get out of here.
Azula: *inbetween kissing* Why?
Sokka: I have a bad feeling...O.0
xD* Chuckle* Oh! By the way, I have a sentence challenge *in livejournal* to do SokkaxAzula (hopefully, if my claim is rewarded!) I'll post sentences as they come here.:3 Maybe I'm an oddball, but I really love this pairing- no ands, ifs, or buts about it! xD
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Post by Revitalize Book on Jun 6, 2006 21:51:04 GMT -5
Whoa. I'm so glad you did though! Your setences are off the rocker, and great to see (and you must be one of the first to do sentences for mutliple shipping.) It really is cool. :3 I am going to try my best for Azokka. *yes, I have named it this- and no one tell me otherwise! xD*
It's so hard to do themes without a set.@_@ But just finishing is rewarding.^^
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Post by Revitalize Book on Jun 6, 2006 22:50:09 GMT -5
*Salutes* (I've nearly finished half already! xD Puu! I may do the other sets just to: I didn't think it'd be this...fun.)
I shall do my best! :3 It doesn't seem Azokka has many supporters >.<, but I am going to work hard anyway. I hope you have fun on one-month break! x) Your going to creative writing camp, right?:3 Good luck!
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RadiantBeam
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Post by RadiantBeam on Jun 7, 2006 19:13:23 GMT -5
I am a supporter! *Waves banner like crazy*
I write Azula/Sokka drabbles.... Fire and Ice, posted on FF.net. I'm very proud of it. And I'm madly in love with Sokkula, and I have no clue why, and I don't care. ;D
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Post by Revitalize Book on Jun 7, 2006 19:55:14 GMT -5
*Raises fist in victory.* Yes- woo hoo! Another supporter! :3 *Shakes hands with RadiantBeam*xD
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Post by neodee2243 on Jun 7, 2006 20:21:35 GMT -5
huh...opposites do attract..even though the impact on contact could be deadly....Like two huge magnets...somebody will be hurt...
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Post by Revitalize Book on Jun 8, 2006 23:12:02 GMT -5
huh...opposites do attract..even though the impact on contact could be deadly....Like two huge magnets...somebody will be hurt... (?) Not sure what you mean... Well, Sokka and Azula may meet up again (they probably will). xD It'd be intersting to see thier interaction if they were trapped together...or if Azula wanted something from him. xD I can see her trying to woo Sokka, and he would just be indifferent to it all... Has anyone made any SokkaxAzula drabbles? (Or have a point about the ship..? I don't want it to go down!)
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Post by firenationstooge on Jun 8, 2006 23:24:34 GMT -5
I am one of the supporters of this ship (don't tell!), but I disagree with some of these posts since it makes the characters ooc.
If Sokka and Azula DO get stuck somewhere together (which is usually how these relations start), Azula is going to boss the heck out of the poor WT warrior, while she tries to keep things "hands-free." But they will eventually come to depend on each other's abilities to make it back to their groups.
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Post by Revitalize Book on Jun 9, 2006 0:18:19 GMT -5
xD
*Secretly shakes hands with firenationstooge*
Well, I'm not sure which posts are ooc. O,0 But I think your right, in that Azula would boss Sokka 'til Kingdom come. xD Hopefully, not brutally so. I would like to see Azula apprieciate, or vaule someone elses opinion above her own- I'm just wondering what would need to be done to get to that point?
It's cliche, but would there need to be some sort of 'trap', Azula stuck with Sokka? Or her having to lure Sokka to her and gain his trust *and the gangs* in order to capture Aang? (But in this case, unless the gang really outstands her, I don't see her being swayed by their Justice League justice xD. She'd STILL follow Ozai).
Azula seems to be one of those characters you need to bend over backwards before changing her mind. xD
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Post by babbs on Jun 9, 2006 0:43:25 GMT -5
GUYS. I bring to you--a BSed SokkaxAzula doodle! Keep in mind, that this is for fun and if it offends in any way, do tell me. I actually got the idea of this doodle from livejournal many, many months ago. So I hope ya enjoy xD:
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Post by Revitalize Book on Jun 9, 2006 0:59:05 GMT -5
*SQQQQQQQQQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!****
*GLOMPS Babbs!* xD Omg- that is GREAT!!!!!!!! That is so *may I? may I say it? :3* cute!! I really like Sokkas expression in the second to last panel- and then it switches craftily to *I'm sayin' it!* looooove! xD
Yaaaay- Azokka fanart! xD It's great Babbs. Completely Azokkaness. *Prints and keeps. xD*
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