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Post by taiyo *on limited hiatus* on Jul 25, 2007 13:44:20 GMT -5
*karmas Endless when hour is up* ^Good question. That's gotta be hard to keep a secret that long. Tyler Perry always saw women were slicker than men when it came to cheating. As for Azula....maybe she just feels it.
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Post by HeartofFire on Jul 25, 2007 19:52:47 GMT -5
Thanks, Endless--glad you liked my banner, and that you agree about the song. And thanks for the karma! *squeals excitedly at 2nd karma ever* ;D lol... As for the theory, i can see you've taken some time in thinking it out. Somehow i doubt it's true, tho, for reasons others have already pointed out. Also, Iroh and Ursa both seem to be portrayed as "good" characters--you know, people who are kind and merciful rather than heartless and cruel. Since cheating is generally seen as a bad thing, i don't think it makes sense that the creators of the show would allow there to be an affair between those two. I know that none of the characters are completely good or completely bad, but it just doesn't seem to fit... Anyway, there's my two cents.
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Post by wildimagination on Jul 25, 2007 20:55:38 GMT -5
^Well, maybe it wasn't an affair exactly. Maybe they slept together by accident, and noody knows.
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Post by Irko Leader Endless on Jul 26, 2007 1:21:32 GMT -5
Why would Azula say such a thing to her own brother if he has the same parentage as her? If she knows he isn't Ozai's son, how would she know? And why hasn't she spilled it? And why would Iroh keep it secret, and keep up the Uncle act for so long? Has he been afraid that Zuko wouldn't be able to handle it, and perhaps reject him? Poor Iroh :'( Yes, pooor Iroh. I must agree, perhaps that is why he hasn't told anything about that in fear that Zuko would come crashing down in anger, or shock...or both. In the subject of how Azula would know, and why she hasn't spilt it. Well, Azula was a sneaky little hobbit in her toung age, and well...she still is. Maybe she was smart enough to pull two and two together, and just found out on her own. And well, according to some of the spoilers we have been seeing lately, Zuko will be staying with Azula for the first episode. (*sob* D:) And from the information, we know that Zuko will be looking for Usra. Perhaps Azula slips the beans in her own way, much like that 'Family Trait' line. And Zuko wises up and goes to search for mommy. Even so...she may let more then something on Ursa slip, like something on Iroh AND Ursa. It's food for thought of course. ;D
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Post by dragonflly on Jul 26, 2007 14:11:49 GMT -5
Double post of doom. D: Don't hurt meh! Anyways, I've been working on that list with my mother. I'm still fixing it up. But I have a few facts...they aren't all Ursroh related, but sorta both...the son thoery and Ursroh. Just so you guys don't get confused. Here are some that I have written up: 1. One of the most important facts for this theory would be Iroh’s line to Zuko from Avatar State. “Things in our family aren’t always what they seem…” A lot of different forum members around here take that as an Ursroh hint. Even more since it was on the subject of Ozai. 2. Ursa’s line to Zuko in Zuko Alone. “Everything I’ve done, I’ve done to protect you.” Leaving so that Zuko would not be killed. And if you listen closely to the scene, you can hear footsteps in the background, even Ursa turns her head to face the sound. One theory would be that the footsteps belong to Iroh. The flash backs never indicated of how much time was between them, so Iroh could have very well came back secretly to get Ursa away. Another, slightly over analyzing theory would be that her line to Zuko came from her saying all those times that she protected him from the truth of Zuko being Iroh’s child, by saying he was Ozai’s. 3. Another important fact found in Zuko Alone, would be that every time a letter from Iroh in Ba Sing Se came to the Fire Family, Ursa was the one to get him. It was never forwarded to Ozai, regardless of it he was busy or not. Even for the important letter about Lu-Ten’s death, Ursa received it first. Another thing to take note of was Ursa’s line to Zuko: “I was just coming to get you, Uncle Iroh sent us a letter from the war front.” She said that she was coming to get you, you being Zuko. Although both Zuko and Azula were playing in the same field together. 4. Azula’s line to both Zuko and Iroh in Avatar State: “It must be a family trait, both of you so quick to get to the point.” Take note that she didn’t say anything along the lines of “It must be one of our family traits.” Or anything similar, she was directing it to Zuko and Iroh, or their side of the family. My mother makes a good point about her line, thinking that perhaps Azula may have known about the truth, being that if it is real or not. And that is why she continues to make smart remarks to them both, most clearly being Iroh. ....I know they are sorta overly analyzing, but that's what my mother thinks...and she's right....most of the time. x-x; Wow....those are some good thoughts! I never really looked at it that way. Great points, they really make ya think!
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Post by Irko Leader Endless on Jul 26, 2007 23:14:38 GMT -5
;D Hey guys! I had some pare time today, and I made a banner for our board...and well just for the pure fun of it. Inspired by a Kataang banner over at ASN. Clearly Toph is a Irko supporter, it was sooo obvious in The Chase. xD Do what she says peoples, and no one gets hurt.
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Post by wildimagination on Jul 27, 2007 22:58:40 GMT -5
Irko=BFFs! XD Best Friends Forever! lol
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Post by fuego on Jul 29, 2007 4:22:41 GMT -5
I always saw the Iroh-Zuko relationship as like the Anakin-Obi-Wan...just after seeing the History channel emmy nominated - Star Wars: The Legacy Revealed...I can see the meaning behind the story of Iroh and Zuko...not being just as family but like brothers.
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Post by nandireya on Jul 29, 2007 4:25:47 GMT -5
Though the trailer doesn't bode well for them...but I guess Obi Wan (and Yoda) forgave and took Anakin back...
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Post by wildimagination on Jul 29, 2007 14:44:37 GMT -5
Yeah. I wonder why Zuko blames Iroh, though. Iroh's done nothing but love and support Zuko and care for him. He really loves his honor that much? That much that he blames Iroh for what happened in the caves?
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Post by fuego on Jul 29, 2007 17:50:00 GMT -5
I wonder we will go in deeper in the storyline when General Iroh was at B.S.S. To me everything change for him and I think it was more then just son's death (I think)
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Post by Irko Leader Endless on Jul 29, 2007 21:48:16 GMT -5
Guy's, don't dispair just yet! I'd hate to see you guys end up like I was yesterday...but as I rewatched that trailer, I had thoeries pop up in my head. I'm pretty sure that the bond between our favorite surrogant father and son isn't broken! Just slightly ripped. My family and I started discussing different things after I told them about the newest episode name 'Nightmares and Daydreams.' I know this may be pushing it slightly over the limit. But it doesn't hurt to just post what I think...regardless if it sounds stupid or not. Right? ^^;
If you guys watched the trailer as much as I did that day, (Couldn't even keep my eyes away) you'd notice in the trailer and the screenshot over at ASN, that scene between Zuko and Iroh had such a pinkish tint to it. Possibily a nightmare tint? I must agree that I was rather shocked by Zuko's line towards Iroh, and it sounds like something he wouldn't say. But trailers are deseving mind you...and some of those clips were from different episodes, possibily including some of the final episodes.
We don't know when this scene with Zuko and Iroh took place. And the scene with Zuko picking up his duel swords doesn't seem to have that tint. Perhaps if someone uploads a more clear video of it? We could tell if it was acutally a tint or not? I'm not sure...I'm just throwing ideas around. It could be true or just something stupid I thought of...we'll have to wait and see.
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Post by theweasleyboys on Jul 29, 2007 21:51:51 GMT -5
Guy's, don't dispair just yet! I'd hate to see you guys end up like I was yesterday...but as I rewatched that trailer, I had thoeries pop up in my head. I'm pretty sure that the bond between our favorite surrogant father and son isn't broken! Just slightly ripped. My family and I started discussing different things after I told them about the newest episode name 'Nightmares and Daydreams.' I know this may be pushing it slightly over the limit. But it doesn't hurt to just post what I think...regardless if it sounds stupid or not. Right? ^^; If you guys watched the trailer as much as I did that day, (Couldn't even keep my eyes away) you'd notice in the trailer and the screenshot over at ASN, that scene between Zuko and Iroh had such a pinkish tint to it. Possibily a nightmare tint? I must agree that I was rather shocked by Zuko's line towards Iroh, and it sounds like something he wouldn't say. But trailers are deseving mind you...and some of those clips were from different episodes, possibily including some of the final episodes. We don't know when this scene with Zuko and Iroh took place. And the scene with Zuko picking up his duel swords doesn't seem to have that tint. Perhaps if someone uploads a more clear video of it? We could tell if it was acutally a tint or not? I'm not sure...I'm just throwing ideas around. It could be true or just something stupid I thought of...we'll have to wait and see. Which episode title is this...?
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Post by Irko Leader Endless on Jul 29, 2007 21:54:00 GMT -5
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Post by theweasleyboys on Jul 29, 2007 21:59:11 GMT -5
So THAT'S the big title that was supposed to make the fanbase go nuts! *wipes face of temporary nervous sweat* Phew, I thought it was some big shipping thing...
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