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Post by Growly on Jun 24, 2007 0:20:34 GMT -5
You spelled Surrogate wrong, Tungsten.
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nandireya
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Post by nandireya on Jun 24, 2007 0:39:51 GMT -5
It's cool...I fixed it Though personally I didn't see there being a problem with it being in the relationships board, it doesn't specify that the discussions in there have to be of a romantic nature, though I can see how it could be assumed. It's probably for the best...
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Irko Leader Endless
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Post by Irko Leader Endless on Jun 24, 2007 1:48:06 GMT -5
Sweet Tungsten, it's spelt 'Irko', not 'Iroku'. ;D And just because I use that term, that doesn't mean that it is incest slash. I just use it because I don't want to fully type out Iroh/Zuko everytime I say it. *sighs* But, of course, nothing to get worked up about, that term has been considered slash many of time. But I'm pleased that it's out of the trash ben, I was having fun. xD; Thank you Tungsten! <3 Let the discussions and good times continue guys!
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Post by aangryjerk on Jun 25, 2007 6:02:25 GMT -5
Or fix a few problems. It's just the matter of how you see it, my mother and I, however do love the theories of Iroh being Zuko's father, and we have settled down countless times rounding up the proof from many different episodes, the most would have come from Zuko Alone. Of how Usra acted to Zuko and Iroh...etc. etc. But still, it's a compexed theory...one I adore acutally, but a lot find it...too...ehm...'icky' for Avatar. With that being said...*hides her list of so called 'proof' for that theorie* But still, I agree Iroh has taken to Zuko as his own son, the thought of it being would be...good. In it's own way...since you can that Zuko really does take after his Mother, and Uncle for that matter. And Azula takes after Ozai. It's something yummy to talk about. But still the Fan Fictions are interesting of course, I love reading them, the angst around it is fun. If a:tla was targeted to an older audience, I could see an affair between Iroh and Ursa, with Zuko being their lovechild, being a very nice subplot. And if Ozai suspects, that would be a good rationale for his dislike of the boy. But as the show is, that subplot would just outrage the soccer moms and fundies. Still it is interesting for fanfiction, as long as it's tasteful. So if you do have some links to such fanfiction, it'd be great if you'd share it. And I would be interested in reading your theory if you want to share it.
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Post by greedyslayer on Jun 25, 2007 14:28:38 GMT -5
It's back(legal)!
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I second that vote for elaboration on that theory, and links to any related fanfic.
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Irko Leader Endless
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Post by Irko Leader Endless on Jun 25, 2007 15:17:51 GMT -5
It may take me a while to gather up a few facts from my mother and create a list, but I assure you guys, I'll totally have a small list up later today. In the mean time...how about a fan fiction on the subject to tid you over? Iroh's Paternal Confession Has Ursroh, and Zuko being his son. There are however some T rated stuff mixed in, but nothing too serious...I bet'cha can deal with it. xD;
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Post by dragonflly on Jun 25, 2007 22:48:46 GMT -5
I must say that I have not read all the comments on this thread, but wanted to say that the fanart is gorgeous! The "Not Again" is so sad. Great job on the drawings, they are wonderful!
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nandireya
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Post by nandireya on Jun 26, 2007 4:44:27 GMT -5
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Post by Monk on Jun 26, 2007 13:20:04 GMT -5
Personally, I find the idea that Iroh is secretly Zuko's father something that would drastically undercut their characters' development as well as the strength of their relationship. They are the two characters who share a common heritage, loss of family, alienation from their home, and an uncertainty in their futures.
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Post by Aibhill on Jun 26, 2007 15:53:22 GMT -5
Am I too late to join the thread? I've been very busy lately... I think I like Irko better than any other ship romantic or otherwise I've ever seen. Personally I doubt Iroh is actually Zuko's father. I think it would be implying that Ozai can't be Zuko's father because if he was Zuko would be evil. One of my favorite themes from the show is that it doesn't matter what you're born but what you chose to be. It doesn't matter whose kid Zuko is because he still looks up to Ozai as a father and treats Iroh like a real father.
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Post by Irko Leader Endless on Jun 26, 2007 15:59:35 GMT -5
Zomg. nandireya, I'm sorry, I completely overlooked your pictures. x///x Sorry hon. But I have to say, very, very emotional. I really like them, you have a very nice style. And hello there firenationprincess! Of course it isn't too late to join up! Any new Irko member is welcome! <3 *hands over some tea* Have a seat honey, and have some fun! Speaking of which, since I normally look through DA on a daily basis. I stumbled across this very adorable picture for Father's Day. Happy Father's Day, UncleOf course, I'm a fool that acutally looks for fluff, but that's my job. Anyhow, I am also the creator of an Irko club, over at DA, my best friend is the co-creator. I though that I would post it, since it wouldn't hurt anything. Strength-And-WisdomHave fun with the goodies~
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Post by aangryjerk on Jun 26, 2007 19:35:05 GMT -5
Nice stuff Endless and Nandi
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Post by dragonflly on Jun 26, 2007 22:23:40 GMT -5
Aww..your pics are adorable! Everyone's pics are great! I draw stick figures so it's nice to see some talent. I love looking around at everyone's work. Endless: love the little comics, they are very cute and sweet!
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Post by writer on Jun 27, 2007 15:25:27 GMT -5
((Accually's likes AloofandAndrogenous' eroctic!Irko fic in AFF << >>))
I have mad love for foster dads, I have them everywhere in my OCs Yomi and Chiko is my stongest one, So Mad love to Irko
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Post by greedyslayer on Jun 29, 2007 16:11:22 GMT -5
While discussing Soko in its thread, Iroh's popped up--how can he not, it's a fact, him and Zuko are a double-act in a fashion, even in romance, since everyone knows he'd want to get to know the girl, and of course he hopes for grandbabies--in instances of his own romance (Aunt Wu/Iroh vs. Jun/Iroh...or both? *is shot*); but it was mentioned that Ursa instilled many of Zuko's decent qualities, and I agree, but I think Iroh's also been an influence, despite season 2's end.
But I'm gonna go back to "Zuko Alone" and its flashback, and there...where, I think that Iroh does have his own redemption to go through, though more quiet and subtle--'cause I think that growing up in the FN and expectations of being Fire Lord made Iroh perform exceedingly ruthless actions in the war. And that some of his regrets fuel a certain desire to make sure that Zuko does not make the same mistakes he did, to protect him from that sort of guilt, that real guilt. And I think even in the flashback of "Zuko Alone," he and Zuko still spend time with each other then (their relationship deepens as time goes on and tragedies strike in rapid succession), and Iroh still felt enough regret to try to teach Zuko better qualities, in addition to Ursa's lessons (such regret and lessons increasing with time).
...I have to check if there's just an Iroh thread (but again, him and Zuko are a double act).
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