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Post by nandireya on Oct 15, 2006 2:44:01 GMT -5
There was mention of her at ComicCon...and Zuko's upcoming search for her...
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Post by samfan911 on Oct 15, 2006 2:52:59 GMT -5
Ohh really that would be interesting
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Post by fullmetalavatar on Oct 15, 2006 3:06:00 GMT -5
That would be something I'd like to see, Ursa really has so much potential as a character (she's may favorite female character in the show so far)...and if Zuko has her support (along with Iroh, of course) I think he has a better chance against Azula...because Ursa seemed to be the only person who made any attempt to keep Azula is check as a child...her absence contributing to Azula's unbridled sadism... and Zuko needs a mom.
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Post by FireBend on Oct 15, 2006 3:19:49 GMT -5
There was mention of her at ComicCon...and Zuko's upcoming search for her... When did they mention Ursa?
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Post by nandireya on Oct 15, 2006 4:24:55 GMT -5
I read it somewhere…unfortunately I can’t remember where so I can’t provide a link…
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Post by Ignite on Oct 15, 2006 5:56:28 GMT -5
First, I don't think that is her because, like everyone else said, it was a long time ago. Second, I don't think she is dead. I think she might have done something to cause the firelord's death (call me crazy) Really though, it seemed like it was in the middle of the night when she woke Zuko up and she seemed rushed. When people say "Just remember, everything I have done has been to protect you" is usually when they have done something bad for the greater good and don't want the person to think of them in a bad light. Another reason I think this is, she was wearing a cloak type thing, and when she was talking to Zuko, she heard footsteps in the hall and then she put on her hood and left. Seems to me like she didn't want to get caught. Then the firelord dies that night and the mom disappears.... I don't think she is dead, I think she ran away after doing something to stop the sentence that was ordered for Zuko. that’s precisely what I thought! , and I want to add that when zuko got bitten by that turtleduck she replied by saying "moms are just like that, if you mess with there baby’s they will bite back!" and azulon ordering Ozai to kill zuko.. well I think that is messing with the baby of eeh the mother of zuko.. So I think she has bitten back!
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Post by airbender01 on Oct 15, 2006 10:41:33 GMT -5
I personally think she MAY have died in place of Zuko,to let him live. That's why in my fanfic, I made Ursa the spirit bear. That's what her name means and she's protective of him like a mother bear.
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Post by lmwags on Oct 15, 2006 11:20:01 GMT -5
She killed Azulan and ran away
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Post by wildimagination on Oct 15, 2006 20:54:45 GMT -5
She killed Azulan and ran away But why would she kill her father-in-law? Ozai made her do it? I dunno. It's too confusing.
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Post by lmwags on Oct 15, 2006 22:24:37 GMT -5
well...its actually a little theory of mine that probably isn't true.
i was thinking that when Azula was teasing Zuko about how Ozai was going to kill him as punishment ("Dad's going to kill you!"), she was telling the truth (for once). Ursa goes up to her, says "we need to talk" and hears what she has to say. Now assuming that Azula's little story is true, Ursa now goes to either Ozai or Azulan to find out the truth. Upon hearing that Ozai was going to have to kill Zuko, she is forced to kill Azulan during the night. This would make sense because the only person present while Ozai and Azulan were talking about taking away Iroh's birthright was Azula, so no one else would really know a motive. And it would give her reason to run away.
=) so that's the story behind my theory that's probably wrong.
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Post by wildimagination on Oct 16, 2006 12:28:31 GMT -5
That is actually a good theory! Never thought of that...
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Post by boomeraangs on Feb 9, 2007 14:10:24 GMT -5
Is it possible that Ursa is a descendent of the girl (the one Koh stole) that once loved a previous Avatar (Roku?)? If that were the case, Zuko and Azula would have a distant relationship with Aang.
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Post by mahatista on Feb 9, 2007 14:33:08 GMT -5
I don't think Ursa died -- at least not then, maybe later. But notice that we never actually see Azulon order Ozai to kill Zuko. We don't have any idea what he says. He only says 'your suffering has just begun...' (interesting that Ozai also uses the term 'suffering' when punishing his own son). Azula (who always lies - right?) is the one who says Azulon gave the order to kill Zuko. And now Azulon is dead and Iroh's birthright is revoked (which was definitely not the direction Azulon was heading when he was yelling at Ozai).
They definitely gave the idea that she left and not the idea that she died. The travelling cloak is a common device to show a journey in storytelling, not to show death.
I feel like this thread is more of a theory thing than character. But that's just me.
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Post by ZukosGirl on Feb 9, 2007 15:47:55 GMT -5
I agree with you about her leaving and not dying. She seemed rushed when she was talking to Zuko and saying goodbye, like she wanted to hurry to have more time to get away. I think that it is very possible that she did kill or help to kill Azulon to protect Zuko and bring Ozai to the throne (somehow. I think his getting the throne was one of those "Hey look it says that I get the throne right here in the will! *points to sentence* What do you mean the ink is still wet?" type of things).
Yeah, this thread is turning out to be more of a theory thing. Maybe it should be moved...
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Post by Lady Ursa on Feb 9, 2007 19:11:47 GMT -5
I don't think Ursa died -- at least not then, maybe later. But notice that we never actually see Azulon order Ozai to kill Zuko. We don't have any idea what he says. He only says 'your suffering has just begun...' (interesting that Ozai also uses the term 'suffering' when punishing his own son). Azula (who always lies - right?) is the one who says Azulon gave the order to kill Zuko. And now Azulon is dead and Iroh's birthright is revoked (which was definitely not the direction Azulon was heading when he was yelling at Ozai). They definitely gave the idea that she left and not the idea that she died. The travelling cloak is a common device to show a journey in storytelling, not to show death. I feel like this thread is more of a theory thing than character. But that's just me. My initial theory was that upon learning that Ozai would be crowned Fire Lord, Ursa was intimidated and ran away because she didn't want the duty. Someone then replied that that wasn't very motherly of her, leaving her children behind. I'm thinking, yeah, that would definitely be a major character flaw, but it leads to development. I mean, all Avatar characters have problems. The creators were very vague in the second season, from what happened in Zuko's childhood, to what he meant when he said "I have changed" in the season finale. And to confirm what was stated a couple of pages ago (I know, this is illegal), there is NO official confirmation that Ursa is dead. Just rewatched the ending of 'Zuko Alone,' and there is no mention of Ursa. Then again, there is no mention of Iroh's wife, is there? Something significant, how the wives aren't mentioned? I'm hoping she's not dead. And it's kinda hard to distinguish between Characters and Theories boards in this case. I mean, here we should discuss how she loved her children unconditionally, whereas any speculation about her fate would be better fitted in the Theories board.
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