Horyo
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Mai
Jul 18, 2008 12:51:45 GMT -5
Post by Horyo on Jul 18, 2008 12:51:45 GMT -5
^She learned something!: She'll never be capable of maintaining any mutually friendly relationship.
I wonder why she didn't order the execution of Mai.
Treachery is punishable by Death, decreed Ozai. Plus, Mai was armed to combat Azula.
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Mai
Jul 18, 2008 13:25:23 GMT -5
Post by spiritmage234 on Jul 18, 2008 13:25:23 GMT -5
^Haha! I guess that is something, huh? ^_^;
Well, she did say that she wanted Mai and Ty-Lee to rot somewhere...
Maybe right before she looses her marbles, she'll see that Mai and Ty-Lee were the closest things to friends that she had, as she intimidates every man, woman, child, and turtle duck that's within a ten mile radius of her.
Or maybe better yet, she'll see how crappy she treated both of them, and that - along with a ton of other cr@p - was her undoing.
THEN she'll loose her marbles.
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fuego
Pabu
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Mai
Jul 20, 2008 14:04:36 GMT -5
Post by fuego on Jul 20, 2008 14:04:36 GMT -5
love conquers all, that not just a slogan but what actaully happen. Who knew Zuko had abilty to change people on there side.
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Mai
Jul 20, 2008 19:36:08 GMT -5
Post by loverboy12 on Jul 20, 2008 19:36:08 GMT -5
I'mn seriously going to miss this girl.
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Mai
Jul 21, 2008 9:30:38 GMT -5
Post by azula1 on Jul 21, 2008 9:30:38 GMT -5
I'm surprised that no one's asked this but:
If Bumi overthrew the FN in Omashu during the "Day of Black Sun" (8 months ago to us), and no one's seen or heard from Mai's parents and baby brother in all this time... does that mean Bumi killed them?
Mai never mentions her family again, so either she doesn't know or doesn't care.
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Mai
Jul 21, 2008 11:24:24 GMT -5
Post by loverboy12 on Jul 21, 2008 11:24:24 GMT -5
Mai wins at life.
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Mai
Jul 22, 2008 1:27:01 GMT -5
Post by dragonflly on Jul 22, 2008 1:27:01 GMT -5
Shall I start a fight about this whole scene?
Nah, I will just simply say that love DOES NOT conquer all. Some differences are just too big to be over come by love. She called him a traitor, and didn't want to know why he was doing what he was doing. She had different beliefs about the situation. And suddenly, poof!, they're gone? It doesn't matter now? HUH?? I wanna know what made her change her mind. Love doesn't fix everything, not in real life and not in this show. They didn't see eye to eye on something as important as, simply put, right and wrong, but suddenly she see's the light?!
And why is it ok for her to dump him over something rediculous and it wasn't ok for him to leave her to save the world? The logic here fails me. I'm sure it was meant to be funny, I guess, but that line just pi$$ed me off more than anything.
Oops! Maybe I have started something. Sorry to anger all you Mai fan's out there, but this is the way I see it, and yep it bothers me. It''s my opinion, not changing it, just as I'm sure I won't be changing yours. To me this is just as thrown at us as the whole relationship was, without reason. I'd like to know the reason, then MAYBE and that's a big MAYBE I can accept it. Doesn't mean I'll like it but I'll accpept it.
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asian malaysian
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Mai
Jul 22, 2008 1:45:21 GMT -5
Post by asian malaysian on Jul 22, 2008 1:45:21 GMT -5
^^ In Mai's view, he dumped her. She never left him. He left her locked in that cell. So she was mad at him for leaving without saying a word to her and wasnt immediately willing to listen to his side at that point in time. Is that so hard to imagine given the circumstances? Anyway, she saved his life and risked her own for him (she knew what the price of betraying Azula was). Ill admit that they arent your typical lovey dovey couple but than again they never were exactly rays of sunshine in their own right so it only stands to reason that they belong together.
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Mai
Jul 22, 2008 10:15:38 GMT -5
Post by loverboy12 on Jul 22, 2008 10:15:38 GMT -5
Shall I start a fight about this whole scene? Go ahead, but you won't make a difference anyways. It certainly does for Zuko and Mai. Mai found out her boyfriend dumped her because he had go on a journey on self redemption, as endearing as that sounds, that still seems selfish considering Mai could have gone with him and would understand his actions from that point since she never had a respect for Azula in the first place. He was a traitor, thats still a canon fact that Zuko left his contry and betrayed it, she was right. Dude, Zuko left the Fire Nation without permission to find the Avatar and broke Mai's heart leaving her with a empty excuse, then it pretty much took Zuko locking her in a cell with a epic eye to eye scene foreshadowing Mai's change of heart. Well, Zuko locked her in a cell and went to jail for him, I can take a guess how she could have turned tables. Didn't you see the Boiling Rock, Mai shares Zuko's love with her own moral instincts, she acted on sheer nature against the situation between her and Zuko. Zuko dumped her and betrayed his contry, logically wise, Zuko would be dead if the plot didn't aquire him to be alive to teach Aang. No you're just butt hurt, You don't like Mai, so I don't see why your venting like a child over something you can't possibly comprehend. Just let it go and pretend it doesn't exist. Dude, Maiko was hinted way back when Zuko and Mai were kids in Season 2.Mai:Because I know you so well.
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riverbird
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Mai
Jul 22, 2008 10:37:22 GMT -5
Post by riverbird on Jul 22, 2008 10:37:22 GMT -5
Shall I start a fight about this whole scene? Love doesn't fix everything, not in real life and not in this show. They didn't see eye to eye on something as important as, simply put, right and wrong, but suddenly she see's the light?! And why is it ok for her to dump him over something ridiculous and it wasn't ok for him to leave her to save the world? The logic here fails me. I'm sure it was meant to be funny, I guess, but that line just pi$$ed me off more than anything. The only problem avatar has had with relationships is that it doesn't have as much time, as say, shows with hour-long episodes. With this in mind they have to make sure that they get the story out there, this of course leaves everything open to opinions and confusion, but they can only work with what they are offered. While I agree that love doesn't always solve everything, and that they didn't see eye to eye at the time, that doesn't mean that real love can't shine through an argument. In a relationship we will tend to argue about something that we both are at odds about, and we did see this with Mai and Zuko. However Mai realized in that moment that he locked her in that cell that this matter was very important to him, and that he really believed in it. That was enough for her to support him by helping him escape, she loved him more than she was scared of the consequences of her actions. She loved him enough to put her life at risk, as she probably assumed she would not live through Azula's wrath. Then she also had time to consider what he had said when she was in prison, and if Ty Lee was talking to the Kyoshi warriors I assume that Mai was with her. Both Mai and Ty lee changed sides in the end as a result, understanding the world from a different point of view. And as much as people put her down, Mai is a smart girl, and mature (yeah she argued, but even adults do >.>). Mai forgave him for breaking up with her because she now understood what he was doing, that he too had given up a lot to save his country. She had never stopped loving him, even when she was angry with him.
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Mai
Jul 24, 2008 14:36:13 GMT -5
Post by Katara7 on Jul 24, 2008 14:36:13 GMT -5
I like mai she is really cool!
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inuyatta
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Mai
Jul 24, 2008 18:57:33 GMT -5
Post by inuyatta on Jul 24, 2008 18:57:33 GMT -5
Loverboy, I think you're outta line. Dragonfly is not butthurt--she made some very valid points. It didn't make sense for her to be so furious and then suddenly it's gone by the time the finale rolls around. Taking shots at her comprehensive abilities is rather troll-ish behavior, and last I checked, that's not allowed here at this forum.
I find Mai's character to have not really changed much since her intro to the series, so my opinion of her has not changed either. I am a bit disappointed that Mai and Ty Lee didn't even seem to speak to each other by the finale's end! I would have thought for sure that after Ty Lee saved Mai, that they would be closer friends. The fact that they went their separate ways without even speaking to each other is a big disappointment for me. =\
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asian malaysian
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Mai
Jul 24, 2008 20:29:30 GMT -5
Post by asian malaysian on Jul 24, 2008 20:29:30 GMT -5
^^ I would have liked to see some more interaction between Mai and Tye Lee at the finale. I think were meant to assume that they are both still the best of friends with interactions off camera and the creators just wanted to intoduce Tye Lee as a real Kiyoshi warrior to Sokka the way they did for that typical Sokka reaction.
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Mai
Jul 24, 2008 22:46:36 GMT -5
Post by dragonflly on Jul 24, 2008 22:46:36 GMT -5
inuyatta: Thank you. I didn't like alot of things about the way they left Mai or Ty Lee. And I don't see much of a change in her character either, I just can't force myself to like anything about her. Ty Lee never really bothered me, except that she was way too bubbly, but I never saw anything truely bad or otherwise annoying with her. She just had such a sunny, cheery personality. I would have loved to see some of those chi blocking lessons!!!!
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Ana
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Mai
Jul 25, 2008 13:52:48 GMT -5
Post by Ana on Jul 25, 2008 13:52:48 GMT -5
Nah, I will just simply say that love DOES NOT conquer all. But this show is a love conquers all show. One of the final scenes is everyone surrounded by people who love them, after all. Besides, Mai and Ty Lee spent a few episodes in prison, come out much happier, and on the side of those who are pro-war. I think it’s quite easy to see to see that the thing that made both of them changed their minds was seeing how badly the Fire Nation treats everyone. Also, speaking of that finale scene, Mai is part of the Gaang now. If it was all for Zuko, I really doubt she would showed up at the teashop at all. Though I agree about the disappointment over not showing Mai with her friend Ty Lee but at least Mai has new friends. This confused me. The only other time Zuko dumped Mai ("The Beach") she was super mad at him and they only got back together after Zuko admitted he was being a jerk. Mai told Zuko to never break up with her again (lol) because it hurt either way. Loverboy, I think you're outta line. Dragonfly is not butthurt--she made some very valid points. This is correct. You can't dismiss someone's opinion has just being butthurt. Don't do it again please.
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